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LOACHESRCOOL Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005   | how do i sex them? |
 Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 |     |
| LOACHESRCOOL Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 | lol its a yellow striped maroon clown. and i was thinking yellow tailed damsels 3 striped damsels things around that size i planned on keeping the eel very well fed thanks in advance  |
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| Patchy Enthusiast Posts: 224 Kudos: 195 Votes: 0 Registered: 25-Sep-2005 | Lol i didnt reply to this cause i didnt know what a YMSC was either. Snowflake in general wont take damsel's unless its really hungry(but it does happen!) Personally i wouldnt put any damsels in there surely your snowflake is the centre piece, it would be better to not load the tank with such a messy eater. Also a snowflake may not eat the damsel but he may attack them when it comes feeding time, both damsels and SFE's are aggressive eaters and if a snowflake see's a damsel going for his food he will be very annoyed. |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
dthurs       Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003 | I would agree, a snowflake will generally leave fish alone. Unless the eel is VERY large, and the fish are rather small. Snowflakes will eat any shrimp in the tank. The only shrimp that did well with my snowflake was a coral banded shrimp. Dan |
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ACIDRAIN   Moderator Posts: 3162 Kudos: 1381 Votes: 416 Registered: 14-Jan-2002  | Actually, the snowflakes will usually not mess with even the smaller fishes. But there is always a chance. You just need to make sure the snowflake is well fed. I have kept many small fish with them and never had a problem. They are more  e to eat any crustacea in the tank than the fish. As for how many Damsels? Well I don't know what a YSMC is, so I cannot answer that. But, you need to be more specific on the damsels, as you say some of the smaller ones, but there are only a couple that stay small, the rest get rather large to what most people think. There is always a bigger fish... |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
terranova  Fish Master Posts: 1984 Kudos: 1889 Votes: 229 Registered: 09-Jul-2003  | None. A snowflake eel will eat the smaller damsels.  -Formerly known as the Ferretfish |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| LOACHESRCOOL Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 | how many of the smaller damsels could i keep with a YSMC and a snowflake eel in a 55gal FOWLR |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| LOACHESRCOOL Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 | could you give me some more stocking list such as patchy did?As long as it includes a pair of GSM. patchy thats a very nice sounding seup |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| ACIDRAIN Moderator Posts: 3162 Kudos: 1381 Votes: 416 Registered: 14-Jan-2002 | I agree, in that size tank, I would not have more than two. And there are many other nice looking fish that would go well with them. That is one of the problems of SW, the majority of SW fish don't get along with their same species, and many even with other fish that just resemble their species. And many don't get along with others in their own genus even. There is always a bigger fish... |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| Patchy Enthusiast Posts: 224 Kudos: 195 Votes: 0 Registered: 25-Sep-2005 | Still cant have that many damsels, damsels are very agrressive especially when they mature. if you want comunity fish with colour. do something like 2x GSM 1xyellow tail damsel 1x flame angel 1x fairy wrasse of some type damsel are just way to agressive to keep together you gotta watch for once they get past juvi stage, they turn into real nightmare and you will proberly want them out |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| LOACHESRCOOL Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 | ACIDRAIN, how mnay could i have if i had a pair and no eel |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003 | Clowns are unics. The largest will become a female, and the next largest will be the male. Any other fish will be sexless. Dan Dan |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| ACIDRAIN Moderator Posts: 3162 Kudos: 1381 Votes: 416 Registered: 14-Jan-2002 | Well both those damsels will get as large as a female YSMC, lol. And actually, clownfish are related to the damselfish. They should be fine together. As for the eel, a neat thing to do is to give him a piece of food that is just a little to large to swallow whole. Like a nice chunck of tiger shrimp. It is really cool to watch them grab it, and then tie themselves into a knot from the tail, and slide the knot down their body to their mouth. Then they use this knot to rip a mouthful off the too large piece. Very cool to watch. There is always a bigger fish... |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| Patchy Enthusiast Posts: 224 Kudos: 195 Votes: 0 Registered: 25-Sep-2005 | You can buy "paired" clowns in any species. Pairing clowns requires no work to be done buy 2 small GSM's and their natural instinct kicks in. one will turn male then female the other will turn male. With GSM's they are a little more agressive than other clowns. But as long as you have enough hidey holes for the less dominant clown you will get away without any major scuffles between them |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| LOACHESRCOOL Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 | how hard is it to pair GSM? |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| ACIDRAIN Moderator Posts: 3162 Kudos: 1381 Votes: 416 Registered: 14-Jan-2002 | I would not add more than 2 with a pair of the clowns and the eel. There is always a bigger fish... |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| terranova Fish Master Posts: 1984 Kudos: 1889 Votes: 229 Registered: 09-Jul-2003 | IME, snowflakes are pretty fast growers, and wont hesitate to nip a human or a smaller fish. If you buy a small eel and large damsels...then maybe you wouldn't have a problem. I just dont trust keeping any true carnivorous eels with smaller fish like that. If it was a zebra moray or something, then maybe that'd be different.  Just my opinion.-Ferret [img src='/images/forums/halo.gif' border=0] -Formerly known as the Ferretfish |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| LOACHESRCOOL Enthusiast Posts: 206 Kudos: 215 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Apr-2005 | If i kept i pair of GSM how many damsels could i keep? |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| ACIDRAIN Moderator Posts: 3162 Kudos: 1381 Votes: 416 Registered: 14-Jan-2002 | I must agree, I would not have more than maybe 2-3 damsels. And then they need to be placed when small and grow up together. And yes, that specific clown is one of the most aggressive of all the clownfish. If she has an anemone there will be no fear in her. I say she, because all clowns kept singularly will be females, or will eventually change to a female. There is always a bigger fish... |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:40 | |
| Patchy Enthusiast Posts: 224 Kudos: 195 Votes: 0 Registered: 25-Sep-2005 | 6 yellow tail is way to many. damsels are very aggressive towards each other. yellow tails are the tamest but 10 would push the bio load way to far would leave no territory. Pair of GSM and a SFE would be a more suitable bio load |
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