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Like i said i do a 100% water change every 1-2 weeks.
I might do a 50% water change and see if the neons go after that.

apart from all the great suggestions already, i'd go with cardinals they are not as e to Neon Tetra disease, they are hardier IMO

also i think its better to do more frequent smaller water changes,

I'd say anything under 55 gallons is small...
under 100 is medium
over is large.....but that's just me

and yes...all my tanks are small...even the stock tank.

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7 gallon, small, hahaha, thats a good one. get cardinals instead, should not cost much more and are a little hardier than neons


chris

Damn. It was the biggest i could afford.

Definitely small!

id say its small.

So is my tank considered as a large or small tank ?

Once your tank is [link=cycled]http://www.fishprofiles.net/faq/begin-cycling.asp" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link] water changes will depend on your nitrAtes. Smaller tanks often need weekly maintence, larger tanks sometimes only need monthly maintence.

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How about a 25% water about 1 -2 weeks? Is that too much ?

Like i said i do a 100% water change every 1-2 weeks.

100% water changes would be killing off most if not all of your biofilter...no wonder the neons are having trouble. Even a 50% water change on a regular basis would cause trouble with keeping a tank cycled.

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Last edited by Babelfish at 29-Sep-2004 11:36

Certainly Neons aren't aggressive toward each other. While male Bettas can occasionally be aggressive toward other species of fish, my guess is that your Neons are dying of illnesses and getting eaten after they're dead.

Store-bought Neons are terribly likely nowadays to carry various diseases by the time you buy them -- especially the dread Neon Tetra Disease, which is impossible to cure, can spread to other species of fish, and is extremely difficult to get out of your tank. The reason is that Neons are mass-produced now in fish farm pools where they can very easily spread disease to each other -- and they've also been inbred to the point that they're very vulnerable to infections.

For this reason, I've sworn off Neons until the fish farms finally clean up their act, which I don't see happening anytime in the foreseeable future. Instead I buy Cardinal Tetras, which are wild-caught and so are much less likely to be disease carriers. They're more expensive, and I gather this is more of a problem in Australia than in America -- but they're worth the added expense. And while a lot of the books tell you that they're delicate, in my experience they're actually only moderately delicate, and they're certainly a lot tougher that the Neons you'll find in the stores these days. (On top of everything else, they seem to have more innate resistance to Neon Disease than Neons do.)

I started out with 8 neons. I now olys have 4 cause i found all the other was had chunks missing or eyes missing. I also hhave a male betta inwith them but i havebeen monitering them for about a week and he seems to leave them alone. He just does him own thing. So could it be the neons ?

i'm not sure if this is an issue or not but wouldn't 100% water change be a drastic thing for the neon? I never do more than 50%, but that could possibly be because of my clown loaches as they are also sensitive.

I shall read that and see how all goes

I need a GREAT deal of help

That's what we're here for....

[link=Here]http://www.tomgriffin.com/aquamag/cycle2.html" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link] is an article about fishless cycling....for a comparison [link=this is the FAQ]http://www.fishprofiles.net/faq/begin-cycling.asp" style="COLOR: #EB4288[/link] on standard cycling.
HTH a bit .

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first things first - i was not sure how to do a fishless cycle. I need a GREAT deal of help

wow. That is alot of Q's.
And here are a few more
How soon before you put any fish in the tank?
How many at a time (all at once or gradually)?

1. Tank is a 7 gallon and is 3-4 weeks old.
It could still be going through a cycle

2. Betta was first fed with betta bio gold and is also fed with flakes.
I have never kept Bettas so I will not comment on the food used, But I will make the comment how much and how often? I use 1/2 teaspoon plus four small pellets for my big tank See My Profile for what I have there

3. I do 100% water changes every 1 to 2 weeks.
100% are you doing a complete water change or is that a typing error 10%? If you are doing 100% that could definiatly be a big problem.

4. do feed on day of water change.
The reasons I do not feed on a water change are
1. I was well informed many years ago it can effect their digestive system do the both at once.
2. One day with out food will not hurt them in any way and can be of benifit to the good bacteria in doing its job with out getting overloaded with too much work to do.

5. Temp is about 75 - 82 F.
That temp seems to be a big differeence.

6. Not cycling tank with neons. Did a fishless cycle.
Did you do a full water check to make sure the cycling had finished?


Did i provide all the answers to your questions ?

Yes all that info will help to solve you problems.

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How long did you have the neons before they started becoming floaters? Hours? Days? Weeks?

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wow. That is alot of Q's.
1. Tank is a 7 gallon and is 3-4 weeks old.
2. Betta was first fed with betta bio gold and is also fed with flakes.
3. I do 100% water changes every 1 to 2 weeks.
4. do feed on day of water change.
5. Temp is about 75 - 82 F.
6. Not cycling tank with neons. Did a fishless cycle.
Did i provide all the answers to your questions ?