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It sounds like you need to decide which fish will go in the 55 gallon and 29 and get rid of the smaller tanks for the most part.
What type of pleco do you have? If it is jsut a common pleco he needs a much larger tank no matter what you have right now.

I am sure others will have other opinions on these choices but this is kind of what I would do. Mostly what you need to decide is... "How much room do I really need?" "Which fish are my favorites?" "Which fish do I HAVE to keep?"
How about trying these changes

55 gallon
1) 5-6 inch goldfish GO BACK TO STORE!
1) buenos ares tetra (albino)needs to be in a group
1) full grown 4 inch loach needs to be in a group
1) quarterish sized sunfish back to store
1) small angelfish (plan on getting a couple more to get a breeding pair) get one more and have a pair

20 high set up 29 and swap fish in 20 to 29 gallon
1) small pleco (plans to move to the 55 when it gets larger dont worry)he will outgrow your 55 if he is a common pleco, needs to go back to the store
1) bolivian ram (plan to get it a mate) move to 55 and get another one
4) corys put in 29 gallon
one, otherwise he can go in either tank
3) threadfin rainbows put in 29 gallon
3) sweet gental zebra danios (never nipped a fin in thier lives, even a betta)put in 29 gallon
1) otto (RIP other 4, dont know how, or why u died, but u will be missed) return or get 2 more for the 29 gallon

10 gallon find another home for these guys
8) adult guppies, numouus fry

10 gallon find another home for these guys
7) guppies
1) male platty
1) male betta

10 gallon these shouldn't be much a hassle for you, you should keep them
6) bettas (with dividers)

maybe you could sety up the other 10 gallon tank like this one and put your bettas in it as well instead of having to sell them.

5 gallon
3) older betta fry


I know this does not asnwer all of your questions, but I really hope this helps!

I had to get rid of a few of my fish recently so I know how difficult it can be.


Christina

well, everyhting is ok thus far

i got all the guppies and fry in the 20 long, only a nary few got eaten, i still have 1 sick guppy in there, but i think its getting better, and no one else has it that i can see, i dont have a clue if any fry have it..most r too small

the fish in the 55 r doing alright as well, but im gunna add another angel and a clown pleco then the 55 is set till spring, at that time i have to go catch about 70 minnows to keep the sunfish from being aggressive towards other fish, it isnt aggressive yet, but i just want to have a security blanket

Did you get everytihng moved and set up? I hope everyone else made it through okay.


Christina

almost done with the moving of the fish, sadly i lost 1 male guppy and im in the process of losing a female the female caught fungus, and i dont know what happened to the male, i removed a plant and found him

all i have in the other 10 gallon is a couple females and the fry, i already moved the others into the 20 long, soon i move the fry and other females, clean up the 10 gallons and then put them away, i may also move the fish from the 20H into there also

well im setting up the 20 long as of now it is still coudy, so i want to keep doing water changes on it, before i add the new substrait and water (so i dont waste it

lol, i doo agree about rats being better (u can snuggle and kiss em) a fish will either bite u or freak out if u even think about it


well, i am moving the big guppies to the 20 long, moving the fry to a fry tank, i also thought of a great way to get the fry out, take the extention of the filter tube off, let hem get sucked up, (removing the pad first though) and under the out put, set up a large fry net, also i can catch over 10 babys with a sweep of my net, so i can get them out fast then the filters for the 2 10 gallons can go on the 20 long....thats all i can htink to do for now though

I am so glad you will be putting the rats in to a cage! they are the absolute BEST pets ever, even better then fish (will I get banned for saying that!?)

on the fish tanks front, I think you should try and get rid of some furniture, to keep as many as of the fish tanks as you can!!!

I have, in order to have the rat cage and the two fish tanks in my room I sold my chest of drawers on E bay and took apart a nice wooden chest............

good luck with your sorting out!!

GFG

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I am sorry, all I can say is you need to be more specific on the types of fish you have when you are askign for help. I hope you do an awful lot of water changes and such because goldfish are dirty and do not do well in warmer tanks either. They are a COLD water fish.

Don't take this the wrong way, but if you weren't going to take anyone advice then why did you ask?

If you really need to make room for the rats you are going to have to get rid of something, or atleast that is how you made it sound.

If you do not want to use the 29 for a tank then maybe you should use the 20L because that has more surface area for the fish and water to move. Then maybe you could move a fish or two into the 20L?
Sorry I couldn't help you any, but it sounds like you really don't want to get rid of any of those fish.


Christina

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It sounds like you need to decide which fish will go in the 55 gallon and 29

the 29 is in use! i am not tearing down my terrarium, i just set it up a week ago

1) 5-6 inch goldfish GO BACK TO STORE!

GOLDFISH HAS TO STAY!!! (it isnt mine!)

buenos ares tetra (albino)needs to be in a group

also not mine, and plus, i hate the way it looks, and noplace sells any around here anyway, althouhg i had considered getting more..i cant

full grown 4 inch loach needs to be in a group

now you cannot say that without know what species it is! i got it single becasue it has to be, i is a terrible fin nipper in anything smaller than a 55, it cant have a buddy, even though i want one..i also dont know what it is

quarterish sized sunfish back to store

i didnt buy it, so i cant sell it my dad gave it to me special

*you heard my thought on the 29 gallon*

the pleco, well i am not sure what it is, but it isnt a common

i plan to get more ottos..only i cant right now, i have to wait a while untill i can get anywhere to get some, and im not getting any till the tank they r going it is stable.

i will never sell my bettas (unless i bred them for it)

i like the way my 10 gallons look, u know, full of life and such, but i wont let it get over stocked with adults, and i cant add all of them 2 the 20 gallon becasue i have newbours and the other guppies will eat them.

ok i have several tanks sert up..only the problem is that if i want my rats for x-mas, i have to tear some down and either sell them, or just put them away, but to do that, fish need to be moved around....

55 gallon
1) 5-6 inch goldfish
1) buenos ares tetra (albino)
1) full grown 4 inch loach
1) quarterish sized sunfish
1) small angelfish (plan on getting a couple more to get a breeding pair)

20 high
1) small pleco (plans to move to the 55 when it gets larger dont worry)
1) bolivian ram (plan to get it a mate)
4) corys
3) threadfin rainbows
3) sweet gental zebra danios (never nipped a fin in thier lives, even a betta)
1) otto (RIP other 4, dont know how, or why u died, but u will be missed)

10 gallon
8) adult guppies, numouus fry

10 gallon
7) guppies
1) male platty
1) male betta

10 gallon
6) bettas (with dividers)

5 gallon
3) older betta fry

empty i have a 20 long with just a bit of water, no fish, another 20 long that i have to clean out (was just a terrarium) a 29 gallon that is still a terrarium, and a 20 high that is actually sitting on my bed with a bit of water in it (thought i was gunna snap in 2 getting it off the stand)

so, keeping the least ammount of tanks around, and the fish most comfortable, what should i do?

thank you for the praise

and i guess i can start thinking of whick fish to sell back in decenber, or after i move the guppies tonight (small adults in 1 10 gallon, fry in the other, and large ones go in the 55, and redecorate the 55 gallon, so i can fit some fish from the 20 gallon in there, i will maybe have an extra tank set up to house impermanent fish, so i dont destroy the plants and scape when i go to fish them out, i will post tonight telling which fish i am to sell

Honestly fishy you're best bet is for you to figure out which fish you really want to keep (in the long term taking into consideration their possible growth size)and which ones you can do without and then take it from there.

I keep rats myself (some of ours have the free run of our bedroom after rat proofing it)and I can't say enough about how very beautiful and loving these creatures are and I can see you've done your homework and the rats you choose will be very lucky to have you Like GFG I would love to see pics when you get them

oh absolutely in a cage...i would never drean of doing what i see so many people do(3 rats to a 10 gallon) it is so sad they will have run around time in a rodent proof room when i am there to watch them and such, and i am more interested in the fantsy rats, they get about 6 inches long with out the tail, but i will start them out in a smaller cage, at first (because i cant help it atm) but im finding a place in my room where i can fit a custom built cage, but i have to find out how many rats i can have before i build it..but back to fish

i am sad to report i cant do anything about the goldfish, u see my sister kept it in a very overstocked (without the goldie) 10 gallon intill it was atleast 4in so i rescued it stuck it in a 20 long so i wouldent get too excited and bash into the sides of the 55, after a week in there, it went into the 55, where after only a month has gained maybe 2in in length, i keep the tank stocked as i have it, because the goldfish is very mean and because it needs room to grow, i tried to get the pond up last summer, but we have to remove the floor of an old building before i can use the level ground to dig, add a liner, possibly get a filter with electric cords underground, its going to take alot of planning u see, and i will make it as big as i can, probly only a couple hundred gallons (200) and i want to get it a buddy, because who wants all that room, and be bored to death?, but i will rescue the other one 2, i know PLENTY of people who have goldfish they dont want, but i would need more than 1000 gallons of pond to fit only a few........


so, summing up: rats go in cage, not tanks. goldfish cant be deltwith for some time.

and i rather like my other fish too, is ther anyhting i can pool together in a 20 long or somthing? maybe the 2 10gallons can go in there? i suppose i could set up the empty 20 long across the room, and i could transport all the gravel, and 70% of the water? i say 70 because the tanks have live plants everywhere, and it is impossible to gravel vac (incert the missing rolly eye smilie)

i htink i covered everything, please correct me if i am wrong

Hi,

I think you should re home the GF as Babel fish said and keep the 20 and 55Gallons, selling or exchanging the other fish for store credit,

Please, if you are going to get rats keep them in an actual cage rather than a fish tank, the ammonia they produce from their waste can cause them many problems especially with their breathing. rats in particular are e to infections called "myco" which can be fatal.

keeping rodents in a glass tanks limits their natural tendancy to climb and interact with the world around.

good luck with the fish exchange and please pictures of the rats?!

GFG



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One of the biggest things you can do is get the goldfish in a proper living arraingment IE in a pond, or a 75 gallon tank. Since new tanks arent exactly on the menu you could try exchanging for credit at you LFS or see if someone in your area can adopt into proper accomidations.

Rats to my knowledge get quite large and do need room to move, I couldnt see one in anything smaller than a 55 gallon, a 75 would be better. Since many of your stock is already needing help (tetras loaches ect all need schools) you should either fill out the schools properly for the fishes needs or make plans to exchange the fish in the 55 with your LFS.

I agree that it most likely will end up being one or the other, fish or rats.

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well, i guess the 5 gallon will be empty soon anyway... i sell guppies, maybe eventually i will just wait for the guppies in the new 10 gallon die off naturly, or add the bigger ones to the 55 gallon untill its cleared of fish...its a thought, u may not think what u said was helpfull, but it was

As you stated you want Rats is this actually necessary as it looks it could cause more problems that it is worth. I think you have to make a decision Rats or Fish.

Not much help just some thing for you to think about.

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