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deschazkody Hobbyist Posts: 119 Kudos: 110 Votes: 77 Registered: 25-Jun-2005 | hey ok i hear alot of talk about aqua salt now what i need to know is whats it for how to use when to use do you replace after every water change ect,ect,ect |
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Mike R Fish Addict Posts: 593 Kudos: 830 Votes: 322 Registered: 27-Jul-2004 | Some say salt improves gill function though I'm not sure how or even if it does. If a fish is recovering from an injury salt is supposed to help the healing. If you use salt only replace the amount for the water you have removed and replaced. In other words if you have a 55 and have added the initial recommended dose and do a water change of 20 gallons, only use the recommended dose for 20 gallons, not 55 gallons. Do not add salt for water you replace due to evaporation. Salt does not evaporate. Mike |
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wish-ga Mega Fish Dial 1800-Positive-Posts Posts: 1198 Kudos: 640 Registered: 07-Aug-2001 | I have never used it. I am of the school "if it aint broke don'f fix it" Just my luck i would have a tank going along fine, add salt and all my friends go belly up! I also have clown loaches and i'm not sure that salt is their best friend. ~~~ My fish blow kisses at me all day long ~~~ |
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LITTLE_FISH ***** Little Fish ***** Master of Something Posts: 7303 Kudos: 1997 Votes: 670 Registered: 20-May-2005 | deschazkody, If I am not mistaken then you use this salt also to maintain a brackish tank. Various species live in the waters where ocean and river “mix up” and as such the water has a certain salt concentration. Some of these species can be adjusted (over time) to thrive in pure fresh- or saltwater, although all of them really like their natural habitat better. IMO, Mike is right about the dosing during water changes. Hope this helps, Ingo |
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FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, Another "touchy subject" on this site is the use of salt in a freshwater aquarium. Salt was initially used as one might use a modern day vitamin or take something because it is thought that it might help prevent some disease. In this case, it was put in the tank mainly to prevent outbreaks of the parasite, Ich. When you put salt in a freshwater aquarium, you change the me more of the protective slime coating. It was felt that if the coating was produced faster, it would be thicker, and slough off the fish faster, thus making it more difficult for the free swimming stage of the parasite to attach to the fish. It also affects the gills of the fish drawing more blood into them. This can be a good or a bad thing. It can cause scarring and rupture of the blood vessels. Or, it can increase the oxygen exchange and increase the colors of the fish. IMO,it is a very fine line and that I know of, no one has published anything that says use "X" amount to treat, and "Y" amount to enhance coloration. The use of salt, especially by folks who have not yet taken basic science courses or have forgotten them can be very dangerous. Salt does NOT evaporate. As the tank water evaporates, the salt becomes more concentrated and thus the solution becomes stronger. Not realizing that, newbes will top off the tank with a gallon or two of water and then add more salt to the tank because they just added more fresh water. Eventually the system fails, and the fish sicken and plants die and they wonder why. Many plants will not tollerate salt in the water. It will cause them to weaken and die. With today's medications, there is absolutely no reason to add salt to a freshwater tank - Period. Tanks that house fish such as mollies should be brackish water tanks, and only brackish water fish should be in that tank. Mixing mollies with most other fish will eventually kill one or the other. Wild caught Bettas, may benefit from some salt... Only because they lived in stagnant ponds where the evaporating water concentrated the salts within the ponds. However, I doubt that the concentration ever reaches the dosage that I've read folks recomend. Any other bettas are "home grown" and don't live or breed in stagant, tropical, jungle ditches or ponds. They have acclimated to our "freshwater" and don't need the salt either. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
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deschazkody Hobbyist Posts: 119 Kudos: 110 Votes: 77 Registered: 25-Jun-2005 | great info thankyou i personly don,t use never saw a reason but i hear it alot on other sites thought i,d ask thanks stallion great post you stated you oppinion but did,nt force it some need to take note Last edited by deschazkody at 26-Aug-2005 19:58 |
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stallion81 Big Fish Posts: 327 Kudos: 255 Votes: 143 Registered: 17-Jan-2004 | Well I have to disagree with the statement "with todays medication,no salt is needed period". Salt is really not a medication, but an irritation to the fish to cause more slime coat. IMO using meds is what causes the strains of a disease to become less vulnerable to the treatment(meds) . I personally use salt and high temps for ICK. I have done this with success with CLs and Synos(scaless fish). I believe salt is a better way to go, and nasty meds are not needed. Help the fish help themselves in a more natural way. I donot keep salt in FW tanks, only as a "treatment". But to each his own, and this debate will go on for a long time. I'm sure Frank has had great luck with meds, its just a choice people have to make themselves. Do what works for YOU. |
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FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, You missed the point (I think), Stallion. "Temporarily" adding salt and increasing the temperature is a way to resolve an outbreak of Ich. What I am NOT advocating is that salt be used constantly in a tank as a prophylactic, hoping to reduce the likelihood of an outbreak. In either case, (increased temp & salt or medication) one needs to do at least a 50% water change after the course of treatment to begin to return the tank to "normal." Frank Last edited by FRANK at 27-Aug-2005 01:49 -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
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divertran Fish Addict Posts: 784 Kudos: 469 Votes: 165 Registered: 14-Nov-2004 | The only times I have used salt is when my gouramis were ill and then only till I got the right meds, and when my mollies were lookin a bit peaked. Some (dare I say most?) species simply do NOT like salt, whereas others (mollies) do like a little bit in their water. It is not recommended for scaleless fishes I think. The mollies perked right up after saltin the tank and adustin the temp. Wether to salt or not, please understand that we talking about aquarium salt, NOT marine salt and not table salt. There is a difference. |
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stallion81 Big Fish Posts: 327 Kudos: 255 Votes: 143 Registered: 17-Jan-2004 | Cool Frank. I did miss that. I agree 10 fold. Never run salt as a constant, only temporarily. I might add if using salt(aqua), please add more oxygen to the water as the salt depleats it a bit. And also work your way up in amount, then water changes after will work it back down to 0. |
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