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dthurs       Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003   | What kind of tank do you wish to have? Fish only Tank, top, lights, heater, substrate, salt. FOWLR Fish only with Live Rock. All the same but with live rock, no corals. Reef. All the same as above, but with much more light, skimmer a must. A hang on back filter is optional. Other filters, not really worth the effort. This is a very basic list. Dan |
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dolphinfan Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 43 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Oct-2004 | WELL I WAS GIVEN THIS ONE...58 GALLON TANK AND NICE STAND..YES I DO WANT SALTWATER FISH.AND A HANG ON THE BACK FILTER.AND I NEED KIGHTING..AND NOW IM LOOKING FOR A COVER..ANY SUGGESTIONS AND ADVISE FOR THE FIRST TIME STARTER..ILL TAKE IT  |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20 | |
| dolphinfan Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 43 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Oct-2004 | THATS LIGHTING]  |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20 | |
| dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003 | As I said, I need to know the type of tank? FO is easy and the least expensive. FOWLR is still easy, but live rock can be about $5 a pund, and you will need between 20 and 60 pounds of rock. Less rock is fine. Reef will take a lot more time, and money. The lights alone could cost a few hundered $$. Once we know the dirrection you want, we can give better advice. Dan |
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| dolphinfan Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 43 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Oct-2004 | ITS A RECTANGLER TANK.20IN DEEP BY 14INCHES ACROSS AND 481/2 INCHES LONG.THERE IS NO NAME ON THE TANK AS FAR AS A BRAND NAME.ITS A GLASS TANK.AS I SAID.I WOULD LIKE A SALTWATER TANK,NOT A REEF THATS TO $$$.WHAT OTHER INFO DO I NEED.  |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20 | |
| dolphinfan Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 43 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Oct-2004 | ok.i just got 100lbs of playsand.and still have the 40lbs of live sand.and 1 medium piece of live rock.is there a certin way to mix the live sand with the play sand?i think im allmost ready.im picking up 45 galons of salt water tomorrow? |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20 | |
| dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003 | Cycle the tank with live rock. As for fish, add them after the cycle. Clowns are good starter fish Dan |
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lil_mikey69 Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3180 Kudos: 2380 Votes: 1 Registered: 22-Jan-2003 | Cycle the tank before you put anything in it. |
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| dolphinfan Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 43 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Oct-2004 | what type of fishwould you put in the tank at first?and would you put any crabs or small shrimp?..  |
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| dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003 | You can use sand from a hardware store. Look for southdown play sand. Dan |
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| dolphinfan Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 43 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Oct-2004 | ok..what type of sand would you recomend..? |
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| lil_mikey69 Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3180 Kudos: 2380 Votes: 1 Registered: 22-Jan-2003 | Yes you can mix them. |
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| dolphinfan Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 43 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Oct-2004 | ok.can i mix the live sand with normal sand?too save a little money? |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20 | |
FantomFish Hobbyist Posts: 120 Kudos: 183 Votes: 1 Registered: 30-Jan-2004 | Ok if the guy sold you live sand it isnt hurting anything. You spent a bit more than normal, and he made a little more than usual, but he is trying to help and it wont hurt starting off with live sand. It will help you get fish sooner. Ya the guy did kinda try and get you to buy extra, but what salesman doesn't? Hes trying to make a living. |
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| kamikaze76 Hobbyist Posts: 63 Kudos: 62 Votes: 69 Registered: 24-Aug-2004 | I would look for a new LFS. This guy obviously is not in the business for the enjoyment of working in an area he enjoys, but only for the money. Maybe he thinks he is a Psychiatrist. John |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20 | |
| dolphinfan Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 43 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Oct-2004 | i need too do a little more reading..im almost a little scared  ..plus the lfs guy..now wants to charge me for advise it seems..so ill do a little mor reading up..ill still need to ask you guys alot...Last edited by DOLPHINFAN at 05-Nov-2004 16:09 Last edited by DOLPHINFAN at 05-Nov-2004 16:10 |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20 | |
| dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003 | Nope, you do not NEED live sand to start your tank. It does help a bit, but not really worth the cost. I used southdown play sand from a hardware store, 350 pounds of it. When you add the live rock, the bacteria and critters(worms, pods, etc.) migrate in to the sand makeing it live sand at a fraction of the cost. Another cost saving option is reef bones. I'm starting to finally see this at more and more LFS. This can replace 50% to 66% of your live rock. The only draw back is it will slow down the cycle a little, but well worth the cost savings. Dan |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20 | |
| dolphinfan Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 43 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Oct-2004 | i thought that live sand was the only way to go?please explain to me the difference in useing one or the other?2 bags of live sand cost me about 45$..the local fish store said i had to use this if i wanted a swt  |
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| dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003 | Looks good so far. But sorry to say, live sand is something you could have gone without. Regular sand is far cheeper, and will get seeded from the live rock. I'm sure you will be very happy once you get going, just never be satisfied.  Dan |
| Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20 | |
| dolphinfan Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 43 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Oct-2004 | ok..where can i purchase them on line?im looking for a hood also... the farther i get into this thing the more im needing....and the more im spending.ok i bought a hof.and 1 power head.40lbs of live sand.and 20 lbs of lr.how am i doing so far? |
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| lil_mikey69 Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3180 Kudos: 2380 Votes: 1 Registered: 22-Jan-2003 | I use and reccomond Maxi Jet powerheads. I have 3 in my tank, along with two Rio Seio 820's. |
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| FantomFish Hobbyist Posts: 120 Kudos: 183 Votes: 1 Registered: 30-Jan-2004 | Ok, well you have started out very well. Get 2 powerheads of about 200 gph a peice. I would reccomend getting the best of EVERYTHING. This will save you money. If you get powerheads that are the best you will never think you dont have enough. I bought two powerheads that i will be upgrading because they are to weak. |
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| dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003 | You can use Regent. They are low price, and work well. The impellors last several years. Dan |
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| dolphinfan Hobbyist Posts: 74 Kudos: 43 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Oct-2004 | could you recomend a hob filter and a power head? |
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