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If your shrimp do anything like what mine have done. You should have pleanty of them in no time!

What about adding in some Najas Grass? The shrimp will like it. Plus it is small so it will help make the tank look larger.



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BTW the moss is for the shrimp, so I don't mind if it takes over a bit. I'll scape around it.

I will quote you on this one as soon as I see the entry "the moss has grown into all other plants".



Ingo

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I will quote you on this one as soon as I see the entry "the moss has grown into all other plants".

That is the battle right now in my 40G. The stuff is everywhere! It is even growing on my heater holder! If the moss isn't enough of a pain, the 4-LC grows through and over just about anything in the tank. Including up the glass.

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Well I guess I'll deal with the moss when that time comes. It's a tiny little tank without much light or ferts, I can't see it taking off too much. And it won't take much effort to redo the whole tank if I need to. I mean it only took me 5-10 minutes to scape it this time.

Ohh...and I have this pet peeve about najas grass. Won't touch the stuff. Can't stand it for some reason.

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Got some more pics of the shrimp. I haven't changed anything with the plants or scape so no overall shot.

Here's a male(I think):


And I got a few shots of one of the females, I stalked her on her walk from the DW to the rock:

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

Very nice pictures Matty

To my greatest surprise, I found one really red cherry shrimp yesterday in my 40G, I thought the male Apisto had eaten them all. There is not much I can do about this one right now as I assume it would be no better off in any of my tanks. Maybe it is time for my "Shrimp Only" tank

Ingo

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So keepers of red cherry shrimp,

I was looking at mine last night and I noticed that some had black eyes and others had white. Do you have this too?

LF,
What do you have in your 29G for fish? Could you do shrimp in there?

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. Maybe it is time for my "Shrimp Only" tank

I agree. Shrimp tanks a fun.

I was looking at mine last night and I noticed that some had black eyes and others had white. Do you have this too?

I have only noticed dark colored eyes, black or greyish brownish color, but that doesn't mean white eyes aren't possible.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

Well one of my "saddled" females is now "berried". I guess I should be expecting new shrimps in a couple weeks or so. Here's an admittedly not so great pic:

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Very nice Matty,

I once had a female like that, actually the eggs on her were already moving around a little, but that was the last time I saw her (a few weeks back) - I am sure she made a good snack for the Apisto

I hope you can catch some great shots once the babies are running around,

Ingo

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I have a hard time taking pics of the adults....I'm not sure how it's going to be with the babies, but I'll try. Sorry to hear about yours.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

Nice, if they have babies I'll buy some, I only have two and nothing's happening.

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Give it time and you will have more Cherry Shirmp that you know what to do with!

Without trying to hard I can easyly count 40+ in my 40G and the 2G hex I am guessing there are 8-9+. I think I am going to start thinning out the population this week.

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I know some people that experience a slow-down and/or stand-still in the re-population of their Cherry culture. They all assume it is because of a lack of a fresh stock as they think they reached a point where the current inhabitants are too closely related to each other.

I know too little to either confirm or dismiss this notion, but it somehow makes sense.

Ingo

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The guy I got them from isn't having that problem, to be sure. He has 300 or so in a 10g. He can't really even keep the population under control. I was thinking that maybe I'd try and order some every now and again to mix up the genetics, but I'm not sure it's really a problem....most animals can inbreed for quite a while without the problems humans have.

I'll let you know when/if I can get some to ya tetratech.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

OK, had to compete with tetratech's shots . I finally got some decent pics of her:








I also put some of my nana petite in this tank yesterday for the shrimp to eat the green spot algae off of and they went right to it. It's almost ready to go back into the 50. Interesting little use for this tank .

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

OK, had to compete with tetratech's shots

Oh Oh A New York infight, doesn't look like a united front to me, or what do you think NowherMan6?

Anyway, nice shots there. Yes, you are right, they can breed more within the family than people can. But it was just this weekend when someone told me that his population dropped in no time from the hundreds to around 50.

Ingo

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Nah tetratech just "raised the bar" for our NY team. Competition only makes you stronger.

Yeah, I keep hearing that here and there. I may try to find another source eventually to mix up the genes.

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Nice pics Matty!

Nah tetratech just "raised the bar" for our NY team. Competition only makes you stronger

Yeah and as was speak I'm gathering my equipment for the next scape. I'm not giving out any other details since nowher has had some pretty good guesses in the past and I want it to be a sneak attack on Jersey

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and I want it to be a sneak attack on Jersey

Ok then, we will find out sooner or later, I guess

I am looking forward to it,

Ingo

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Here we go with this New York/New Jersy thing!

Can't wait to see what's next!

Matty,
Quite nice shots. The shrimp look good on black. I will have to keep that in mind with the next Cherry Shrimp tank I might do.

These guys really colored up for you pretty quick or did you get some others.


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Weeeeell.....I got me some little 'uns. I also took some really poor pictures of them. Heres a picture with something that might look a little bit like a baby shrimp:



As to your Q wings, no I didn't get any new shrimps, they did color up very quick for me.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

I am pretty sure those aren't baby shrimp. I think they are rocks in an out of focus shot!

Congrates on the baby shrimp. You will have many more in no time flat!

How is the tank looking?

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Hehe, you got me wings .

Here's a shot of the tank, you can see by the tannins that the tank has been neglected a little. I also have yet to get a background, and the paper I have up there now is currently falling down. Ah well, more pressing matters to attend to .

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Finally got a black background. I think it looks sharp. I also added some more crypts and I got the pellia in safely from Malaysia. Some of that went in here, but most of it is in the 50. It wasn't as big a bunch as I had hoped, so it will be a while before it can make an impact I guess.

I haven't attempted to get any better pics of the babies yet. I'll probably give them a week or two. Here's the tank as of now though, it's getting better.

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Is it just the background that makes the plants on the left so much more "shiny" ?

Also glad to hear that your plants from Bensaf's neighborhood (well, in relative terms) arrived well. How long were they on the road for?

Ingo

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Must be the plastic ones....really though, I dunno which ones are more shiny than the others....I'm lost. Maybe it's the light?

The plants shipped Monday last week and arrived on Saturday.

No comments/crits on the layout? I was hoping for some.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

Plant size it too large for this small tank. I think you need something smaller...

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No comments/crits on the layout? I was hoping for some.

- I didn't know there was a layout -



Well then:

- What's up with the 2x4s that hold down some plants and serve as an anchor for the moss?
- The moss is getting a little untidy.
- All plants seem to float over the substrate, as if the substrate had no connection to the rest of the tank.
- The yellow sponge is also a nice attraction (Sponge Bob?). I would suggest replacing it with some stocking over the intake.
- A few nice smaller rocks on the substrate may look good as well.

You asked for it, so don't blame me

Ingo

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No comments/crits on the layout? I was hoping for some.

We'll the shrimp obviously like it.

What's up with the 2x4s that hold down some plants and serve as an anchor for the moss

LF, don't be so quick to judge. I think Matty's in the process of building a sun porch for his shrimp.

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*shakes fish at LF*

Thanks, I'll try to play with some of the non-utilitarian stuff you noted. (rocks for algae, sponge necessary, trimming moss = trimming my first baby shrimp ) Eventually I won't mind trimming back the moss though, when the population of scrimps are higher. Rocks will be exchanged, and I'm not sure why the shrimp people don't recommend stockings...the guy I got them from said he had problems and had to use a sponge.

Wings...the crypts are emersed grown and are shrinking a bit, the new leaves are small and narrow. They should end up similar to the ones on the right, I think, cause they are the same wendtii from the same guy. I really like how the ones on the right look, no? I just got some pellia and the other petite nana should be moving over soon. So that should help bring plant size down a bit.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

I think Matty's in the process of building a sun porch for his shrimp.

*shakes fish at LF*

- Well, you asked, I replied

So this is rock and not wood, my mistake then, but darker colored rock would have been better, I assume.

I will ask our shrimp guys during this weekend's NJAGC meeting about sponge vs. stocking and let you know what they say. Don't they have dark gray sponges available?

Ingo

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Hi,
Yes they do make dark sponge filters:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/NavResults.cfm?N=2004+113424

Click on the lower three sizes of sponge filters to
see their specs.

Frank


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I was shaking my fish in reply to this comment:

- I didn't know there was a layout -

Not any of your actual critiques. I wouldn't ask for them and then shake my fish at you for responding. That would cause undue damage to my fish.

So this is rock and not wood, my mistake then, but darker colored rock would have been better, I assume.

I will ask our shrimp guys during this weekend's NJAGC meeting about sponge vs. stocking and let you know what they say. Don't they have dark gray sponges available?

Yep, rock, but I'm not sure that darker rock will show up on black sand, but maybe I can find something. I'd appreciate you asking them. The filter is a bit overrated BTW, an AQ 150, turned all the way down. It's what I had laying around. So I dunno if that has any affect. I do like the darker sponge idea, and thanks for the link Frank. I'll see what we have at the store this weekend.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

That would cause undue damage to my fish.

So, if a rather dark rock would not stick out enough to be visualized in the scape, how about something more on the line of the rocks that I have in the 40G, some gray rock with white marble patters (they called it Picture Rock at the LFS, but I don't know its real name)? Or, some darker brownish rock, like tetratech's petrified wood?

The AC 150, that is now the 50, right? I have two of them on my 20G, also all the way down. How is the current in your tank?

Ingo

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Yeah, maybe if I can find some gray rocks like your marbley stuff, that would be good.

The 150 is the 30 now I think. I know I wouldn't put only a 150 on a 50G tank. I'm not sure I'd only put a 150 on a 30G tank either. Either way the water is moving around really good in the 5.5, but not too much as to move the sand around or blow the shrimp away. I would feel comfortable with the 150 on the 5.5 on a little mini reef if it were turned all the way up.

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The 150 is the 30 now I think

You are right, I checked the Hagen web site. Here is the complete "conversion" list:

Was: Is:
100 - 20
150 - 30
200 - 50
300 - 70
500 - 110

I liked the original numbers better as they represented the max flow.

Anyway, I think the new 30 is no overkill for your tank, and from your description it seems to work well for you. Again, I have 2 new 50s on my 20G long and once in a while set the flow to about half way up, also with no fish blowing sideways .

Ingo

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Yeah, I agree LF. We're used to our cannisters and whatnot, and me, my reef tank. That 30 probably has about 1000 gph of water movement.

So I got a somewhat respectable pic of one of the babies. They have easily doubled in size, and are getting easier to photograph. In a couple weeks I may get a good pic . At least it's not mistakable for a rock .

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This is a very nice shot of the baby, the few bright spots in the front don't really bother me that much. Interesting though to me is the color, as it is already pinkish/reddish. Do I recall this right that at some point it was said that the color kicks in when the shrimp matures?

Ingo

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The older the shimp gets, given its a female, the redder they become. Though I have found some pretty small shirmp that are bright red. Probably depends on food and such...

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