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importfan878 Enthusiast Posts: 169 Kudos: 212 Votes: 8 Registered: 22-Jun-2005 | Have a 40B qwith regular gravel. Have 4 bulbs vho fixtures so plenty of light. HAve regular gravel and no co2 or dosing.Can i support these plants. http://liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=2147 |
Posted 11-Jul-2007 22:47 | |
superlion Mega Fish Posts: 1246 Kudos: 673 Votes: 339 Registered: 27-Sep-2003 | Before answering that, the million-dollar question is, are your vho bulbs intended for marine aquariums? The spectrum of light reefkeepers want for their aquariums happens to be better for growing algae than plants. It may be that some of the plants in that package would flourish (Anubias, java ferns and Amazon swords are quite hardy) and some wouldn't do as well. ><> |
Posted 11-Jul-2007 23:17 | |
mattyboombatty Moderator Tenellus Obsessor Posts: 2790 Kudos: 1507 Votes: 1301 Registered: 26-Mar-2004 | Also, 4ft VHO bulbs are rated at about 110 watts APIECE. I'm not sure why you'd like that much light over a 40Br planted tank. I hope you have CO2 and a lot of fast growers, cause that is quite a bit of light. I'd suggest running 1 bulb fr 9 hrs. and two for only a couple. That's if you have a high tech setup in mind. Also, as superlion suggested, please use 6700k or thereabout for daylight spectrum. This is better suited for growing plants. Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients |
Posted 12-Jul-2007 02:23 | |
importfan878 Enthusiast Posts: 169 Kudos: 212 Votes: 8 Registered: 22-Jun-2005 | got a new set of plants picked up some hardy plants. Would this be too many plants? The lights aren't that bright. They're a year old so they aren't that bright. It's 2 50/50s and 2 atinic. WOuld they be fine in regular sized gravel and no ferts? -3 Amazon Sword (Plant Large, Potted) -Anubias nana -2 Micro Sword -Anubias barteri round leaf -2 Banana Plant - Java Fern - Ozelot Sword - Bare Root - Radican Sword -Dwarf Sagittaria |
Posted 12-Jul-2007 05:51 | |
mattyboombatty Moderator Tenellus Obsessor Posts: 2790 Kudos: 1507 Votes: 1301 Registered: 26-Mar-2004 | Importfan, I would like to suggest that you think a bit about your lighting scheme first. As superlion and I stated, all that blue light isn't going to do all that well for a planted tank. That's even a lot of blue for a marine reef tank. I'll again suggest you look into only running a couple bulbs with 6700K daylight spectrum bulbs. 2 6700K bulbs will be more than enough light for any of the plants listed. I'd also try to encourage you to think about ferts. You're going to need them as well as a source of carbon and some fast growers with all that light. For the plants you listed, a single 96w power compact fixture is what I'd recommend you use. More llight will be wasted on those plants. Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients |
Posted 13-Jul-2007 07:24 | |
importfan878 Enthusiast Posts: 169 Kudos: 212 Votes: 8 Registered: 22-Jun-2005 | going to leave the light, unsure if i want to just dose excel or diy co2, any suffestions |
Posted 13-Jul-2007 23:52 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, 50/50 and Actinic Blue lights are designed for salt water reef tanks. The invertebrates in them depend upon light that strong and of those wavelengths for the types of algae that nourish them and help color them. In a freshwater tank they can burn the plants and will washout their colors. You seem to be making due with what you have instead of getting what you need. You and your plants would be far better off if you were to replace the old bulbs with more correct ones. That is no higher than 10,000K max and preferably between 6700 and 8800K. As far as CO2 is concerned, it is Carbon that the plants need. Think of light as the engine for plant growth and Carbon as the fuel for that engine. If you bombard the plants with that intense a light, they will respond with initially rapid growth as they use up the stored nutrients trying to feed the engine of growth, and then when the stored energy is used up, they will wither and die. Unless, you provide the carbon and other nutrients necessary. You can provide the carbon by injection of CO2 gas, or by using Flourish Excel. With a 40G tank, you are at the normal limits of DIY CO2 injection. When you reach tanks of that capacity and larger, you will need at least two and probably three gas generators, connected in series, to provide enough gas to bring the CO2 saturation up to the 20-30mg/l point. That will require an additional number of generators ready to be mixed to replace the active ones as they die out. DIY CO2 can rapidly turn into a chore that takes time and soon falls by the wayside. IMO, I'd save/wait longer and purchase a bottled system. If you are using standard #2 or #3 gravel that is fine for plants as long as the substrate depth is 3-4 inches. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 14-Jul-2007 07:48 |
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