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sodaaddict84 Enthusiast Posts: 255 Kudos: 108 Votes: 52 Registered: 02-Nov-2006 | ok from the posts i have read and questions i have asked. i gather that i want a 6,500k - 10,000k bulb. but at the stores and places online the plant bulbs are 2,500-4100. i dont understand why they say for planted tanks when people say that the others are better? *click *flash *click "whered he go???" |
Posted 25-Apr-2007 06:08 | |
longhairedgit Fish Guru Lord of the Beasts Posts: 2502 Kudos: 1778 Votes: 29 Registered: 21-Aug-2005 | Its an industry underestimation thing. While its perfectly possible to grow many plants under the lower K bulbs, the real pros use much higher wattages. Its probably just an averages thing, the manufacturers try to produce bulbs that arent so bright that they cause an algae explosion for people whos water quality might not be tip top, and they try to use frequency of light to encourage growth. For low light plants this is fine, but coinnosseurs have to find bulbs of much higher brightness, and sometimes use co2 for healthy growth, none of which is truly necessary for most people. I have all my tanks festooned with loads of plants with lots of healthy growth, but Ive never as yet bothered with higher wattages. You can do it without, its just a perfectionists thing.Besides, many fish are seriously annoyed by lights that are too bright, and I keep quite a few of them. There are quite a few ways you can successfully grow plants, high lights, lowlights, ferts, co2, its all doable, there is no one way. |
Posted 25-Apr-2007 11:30 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, Plants use the light in the red and blue ends of the spectrum. The K rating of a bulb is derived from heating a black iron ob black heating elements, or better yet, a piece of black iron heated by a welding torch. In each case as the temperature of the iron is raised the iron becomes first red, then reddish yellow, then brighter yellow shifting to white, then a glaring white shifting to blue. The temperature of these color shifts are measured in Degrees Kelvin, or "K". A bulb at the red end of the spectrum have a lower temperature than those at the blue end. What is being said is that the light being given off is the same "shade" or "color" as that black iron ob Degrees Kelvin. Theoretically, you could put a red bulb and a blue bulb over a tank and grow plants. If you did, I'd use fluorescent bulbs in the experiment. BUT, you would not be able to see the colors of the fish and plants. Red light is used aboard ship after dark because it allows you to see and work, but is dim enough that when you step outside into the dark of night your eyes more rapidly adjust to the darkness. Red light is used in zoo displays to allow you to watch nocturnal animals going about their business during our periods of daytime. Using a blue light washes out the colors (such as moon lights) and things become shades of grey. The spectrum in between the two extremes is where we see color and where you would want to choose your aquarium bulbs.. You would want to choose the Daylight part of the spectrum, one that contains all of the colors and is a "white" light. Here is a site that describes a bit more graphically, the Kelvin rating for bulbs: http://www.1000bulbs.com/page.php?s=KelvinTempExplained Note that as the temperature climbs, the light shades from "yellow" through white to blue. I prefer to use bulbs on my planted tanks that are 6700K and a max of 8800K. Bulbs as high as 10,000K are used in freshwater tanks, but once one gets over 10,000K the light becomes BLUE such as the Actinic Blue bulb and when those are used, they are combined with a lower K rating bulb to modify the result making the overall light more like daylight. Bulbs over 10,000K are used in salt water tanks, especially reef tanks and tanks containing invertebrates. This is another site with more detail that compares lights: http://www.aquabotanic.com/lightcompare.htm Generally speaking, as a rule, terrestrial plant bulbs give off a pink or purplish glow that (IMO) I find quite ob and dim, while very high rate bulbs 10,000+ are simply too bright, and harsh. I prefer bulbs around 6700K-8800k for my tanks. The light is white, and photos look great. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 25-Apr-2007 16:28 | |
sodaaddict84 Enthusiast Posts: 255 Kudos: 108 Votes: 52 Registered: 02-Nov-2006 | thanks guys. on my 29gal i have a corlife dual fixture coming in at 42w total. one lamp is 6700k and the other is a colormax "full spectrum". does the full spectrum mean that would help the plant growth? and i also have the hood light that came with the tank, what should i replace it with? and one more ? what would you recommend for a 10 gal. i have a 18" fixture with no bulb right now. im looking for one to put in it. i want to put some java moss and some micro swords *click *flash *click "whered he go???" |
Posted 26-Apr-2007 03:41 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, Yes, the full spectrum bulb will be fine with plants. "on my 29gal i have a corlife dual fixture coming in at 42w total......i also have the hood light that came with the tank, what should i replace it with?" I'm confused ... Doesn't the first part say what you are replacing the hood that came with the tank with? As far as the 10G tank is concerned you are, in a sense, mixing plants of different light needs. The moss will grow with just about any light (wpg) while the micro swords will require around 3 wpg. In a 10G tank you might get away with using 2+ wpg but it will be up to the plants and the bulbs you use. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 26-Apr-2007 08:10 | |
sodaaddict84 Enthusiast Posts: 255 Kudos: 108 Votes: 52 Registered: 02-Nov-2006 | thanks frank. just to clarify i have the light that came with the hood(original bulb). and a corlife with one 6700k and full spectrum *click *flash *click "whered he go???" |
Posted 26-Apr-2007 09:15 |
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