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Theresa_M![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Queen of Zoom Posts: 3649 Kudos: 4280 Votes: 790 Registered: 04-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Can someone please give me some basic info on lighting for planted tanks? True actinic, T8, 10000K, 50/50 VHO...I'm lost :%) I don't need anything fancy, I'm just looking for decent lighting for planted tanks. Also, flourescents like [link=these]http://www.bigalsonline.com/catalog/product.xm Sorry if these are silly questions. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is water at the bottom of the ocean |
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Sin in Style![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1323 Kudos: 1119 Votes: 165 Registered: 03-Dec-2003 ![]() ![]() | Not silly questions at all. with all the options today for simple lighting today its a wonder anyone bothers to ask. what size tank is this for? any plants? if so what kind? what effect are you going for, looking for a heavy blue or subdued sunshine? |
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Theresa_M![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Queen of Zoom Posts: 3649 Kudos: 4280 Votes: 790 Registered: 04-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'm actually shopping for a few tanks...my 30, 29, a 10 and possibly my 20 long ![]() The tanks are all planted...swords, crypts, anacharis, java fern, anubias, dwarf sag. I'm not sure about what effect, probably leaning more towards sunshine than blue though. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is water at the bottom of the ocean |
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FRANK![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hi, This could be a long reply, so grab a cup of coffee, or a soda pop, sit back and enjoy. The mysteries of aquarium lighting... Let's see if we can't help. First, the only real "NO" is don't use incandescent light bulbs. They burn a lot of electricity, give off large amounts of heat, and the light they emit is not good for plants. So, where does that leave you? Several options: The first is flourscent lighting. (In a nutshell..) Flourscent lights are glass tubes lined inside with phosphors (rare earths) that glow when excited by electrons (electricity. There are tiny filaments connected to the pins on the ends of the tubes, and when the switch is turned on, current flows from a transformer (called a ballast) to the filaments they glow and the heat excites the gas and electrons flow striking the phosphors and they in turn give off light. The phosphors in the tubes determine if they are plant bulbs, reading bulbs, or for other purposes. Flourscents come in various lengths, and "sizes." They are available in T-12, T-8, and T-5 diameters. T-12's are 1 1/2 inches in diameter. T-8's are 1 inch in diameter. T-5's are 5/8s inch in diameter. Generally, the T-12's and T-8's are 40 watts or less per tube. The T-5's are classed as High Output (HO). This is because they are only 5/8 inch in diameter and put out lots of light for something so small (thin). T-5s can be as low as 4 watts, and up to as high as 48 watts. Another is: Very High Output (VHO) flourscents are lights that are made to run at higher voltages, and thus require special ballasts, and wiring including the end caps (sockets) for the bulbs. They are T-12 bulbs, and come in wattages up to 160 watts. VHO's generate some heat, and generally have a fan mounted in the canopy to carry off the heat from the bulb and from the tank. Another is: Compact Flourscent Bulbs. These are bulbs that are thin like the T-5's but instead of being one long bulb, they are in the shape of a tight "U." They come in two types, determined by their ba where it plugs into the socket. Some have 4 pins in the shape of a square, and others come with 4 pins in a straight line. Compacts generate some heat, and nearly all have fans built into the canopy to carry the heat away from the bulb(s) and from the tank. Compacts come in 18,32,40,65,and 96 watt sizes. Another is: me These are almost flood lights. They are extremely bright lights, all incandescent style and are designed to emit lots of concentrated light within the demands of Salt Water tanks. They generate tremendous amounts of heat, and are nearly all mounted above the tanks and shine down into them. Next: Along with the types (normal T-12, T-8) and HO (T-5) and VHO, and Compact Flourscent bulbs, you also have a rating that is called the "Kelvin rating." To get an idea what the Kelvin rating is, you would have to take a piece of black me The me then blue as the temperature got increasingly hotter. Our sun is rated (roughly) at 6700K At 10,000K and above the light changes from white to progressivly bluer in color. Plants prefer light in the red and blue parts of the light spectum. However, we humans prefer the light between the two. Red light only penetrates into the water colum a small amount, while blue light penetrates dozens of feet. So called Plant grow lights, generally combine the two spikes and give off a pink or purplish light. Light in the 5000K range tends to be a yellowish red and kind of "dim" looking and tends to "wash out" the colors of the fish and plants. Light from 10,000K and up tends to shift from the very bright white into the bluish colors and this too (especially the 20,000K and Actinics) tends to washout the plant colors. Generally speaking lights above 10,000K are used in salt water tanks that house corals and other invertebrates. They need the intense bright light to manufacture the chemicals and algae necessary for life and their colors. So, what kind of light would work on your tank? If it is less than 20 inches deep, you can choose any flourscent (normal, HO, VHO, Compact) that you can afford and that will fit atop your tank. If you choose a regular flourscent bulb hood (T-12, T-8), purchase the bulb at your local hardware store and save money. Purchase a bulb that says DAYLIGHT, or SUNLIGHT. Those give off light in the 6700K range, ideal for humans and plants. Don't...purchase the "Warm" series (Warm White, or Soft White) these are designed for reading and don't have the "glare" of sunlight. If your tank is over 20 inches deep, then the red part of the spectrum will be scattered and absorbed by the water and floating debris in the water, and you would want to use a mixture of the 6700K and a 10,000K bulbs to penetrate through the water to the substrate If your tank is small, 10G or less, purchase the screw in compact flourscent bulbs. These, combined with the tanks shallow depth will give you all the light you need for nearly any plant. How much power (watts) you need should be determined by the plants that you keep. If your plants are low light plants then keep the wattage around 1 watt per gallon. If you are keeping medium light plants, then you will want more than one tube and you should shoot for 2 watts per gallon. If you are going to keep high light demand plants then you want to have over 3 watts per gallon and will probably want to use the Compact, or VHO or HO bulbs. To determine how much power you have, take the total wattage of the bulb(s) and then divide that by the capacity of the tank. For instance, a 55G tank with a single flourscent T-12 bulb is 40 watts. Divide 40 by 55 and you get .7 watts. Thats good for looking at the fish, but really pushing the lower limits of low light demand plants. Chances are you will not be successfull with that setup. You'd need to use a two bulb canopy (80 watts divided by 55 = 1.4 (nearly 1.5) watts per gallong (wpg) and would be able to grow the low light plants. This is the "nut shell" version. There is lots more theory, and practical information as well, but that might overload your basic question. Hope this helps... Frank Last edited by FRANK at 08-Apr-2005 17:40 Last edited by FRANK at 08-Apr-2005 17:44 Last edited by FRANK at 08-Apr-2005 17:46 -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
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sham![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | Blue light isn't always bad. It can wash out plant colors but I like the softer dimmer light on my 55g and it brings out some fish colors better. Here's my giant lilly from some unknown walmart bulb and congo tetras under 40w of 10,000k and 40w of actinic(18,000k), reg flourescent: ![]() Very bright colors on the congos. I couldn't even get pics of them under that light. They are just streaks of color. The new 220w compact flourescent with 110 in 10,000k and 110 in actinic: ![]() [link=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/sham885/lighting/P1010227.jpg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/sham885/lighting/P1010227.jpg" style="COLOR: #00C0C0[/link] I don't have pics of it under the old lower kelvin lighting but I have some with flash that looks similar. It does throw some of a glare but under the original lighting the congos blue barely showed and the red was much more faded. The plant colors are sharper though. ![]() And this pic where I think I turned out all the tank lights. The bulbs in the room light are 67000k daylight bulbs. [link=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/sham885/lighting/P1010260.jpg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/sham885/lighting/P1010260.jpg" style="COLOR: #00C0C0[/link] My 20g has 6700k bulbs and I don't like it. It looks somewhat yellow to me but then I have my 55g right across the room as comparison.[/font][/font][/font] |
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Babelfish![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Just as a side note on franks post. I've found that 65000K daylight bulbs not only the easiest to hunt down (I get my bulbs from home depot) but also the ones that give the best color to both fish and plants. ^_^ And join me for a swim tonight" ![]() |
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