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it's a micro sword according to the little tag that was in it. it's starting to yellow a bit NOW, but it wasn't when the tank got cloudy it looked very green. -Amy
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Thanks guys I'll watch for it.

-Amy
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LOL Frank, I almost attached the same link. I was trying to look more for a drawing that shows one, but could not find any.

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Hi,
Here is a link to Tropica

[link=http://www.tropica.com/default.asp ]http://www.tropica.com/default.asp [/link]

In the column on the right listing the plants
click on the Anubis Barteri var barteri.

The horrizontal stalk that has the roots extending out
of the bottom and the leaves out of the top is called
the rhizome

Frank


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All the Anubius have it. You will three basic parts of the plant when you get it. The roots, the leaves, and the rhysome. The rhysome is the long stick like part between the leaves and the roots. You will understand when you get the plants.

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here's a list of the plants that are in the package:

2 ANUBIAS BARERI REG.
2 ANUBIAS NANA REG.
2 JAVA FERN
2 BOIVINIANUS
2 CRYPTOCORYNE BLASSI
1 ANUBIAS SHOW PLANT
2 BUNCHES JAVA MOSS
1/2 POUND FONTINALLIS

I'm not sure if any of those has what you're talking about, and I'm not sure I understand exactly WHAT it is. Maybe if you could show me a picture of a plant with it and point it out to me? Thanks for the info

-Amy
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Anacharis, if you don't try to root it,


If you have Anacharis, or any other plant coming in, that has a rhizome, be sure not to bury the rhizome in the substrate. As this will kill the plant. If placing them on the substrate, only bury the true roots. The long hard shaft like thing that is between the leaves and the roots, is what is called the rhysome. Most people attach these plants to the drift wood or rocks or such. Just use a rubber band. The plant will root, and eventually the rubber band will break down and break apart. Just remove the rubber band after it breaks on its own. The plants will be rooted then. As the roots of these plants do not need to be planted in the substrate.

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I can see that brown stuff in my gravel always wondered what it was. my plant package is going to have 14 or 15 plants plus some java moss, which I'm going to spread out between a 29 gallon tank, a 10 gallon tank, and a 5 gallon tank. My tank is already starting to clear up btw. -Amy
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Hi,
The term "Substrate" is the "fancy" word for whatever
you have on the bottom of the tank. It could be sand,
aquarium gravel, river rock, Flourite, or Onyx and any
of a dozen other things.. even unscented kitty litter.

The bacteria that breaks down the fish waste, dead plant
leaves &amp; roots, and excess fish food, lives in the filter,
in the gravel, and on the surfaces of the tank. The
gravel holds the largest colonies. If you were to look
between the grains of substrate, you would see a brownish
"mud" like substance called Mulm. This is the broken down
materials and is the source of nutrients for the plants.
Other sources are disolved in the tank's water.

In a normally stocked tank, and lightly planted, the fish
should provide just about everything the plants need for
growth. Over a period of time, the plants will use more
of one nutrient than others, and when a nutrient
deficiency occurs, the plants will tell you by the leaves
changing colors, developing spots, getting wrinkled, or
deformed.
[link=http://badmanstropicalfish.com/plant_problems.html]http://badmanstropicalfish.com/plant_problems.html" style="COLOR: #FF00FF[/link]

The need for fertilizers, and CO2 injection and other
measures primarely arises when you are over planted, or
when you put low light plants in a medium or high light
tank. Same with medium light plants in a high light tank.
If you are going to "drive" the plants with higher than
normal light then you have to give them the nutrients that
they need to fuel the drive.

Stick with your low light plants, and get your green thumb.
Soon you will want to have more variation in greens, add
some reds, and perhaps some forground plants, then you will
have to increase your Watts Per Gallon (wpg) and step into
the medium and high light areas.

Anacharis, if you don't try to root it, should grow fine
in a low light tank as it is sitting at the surface just
under the light and getting it "full strength."

Frank


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I'm finding out my only lfs employees aren't exactly as educated as I would think in the fish deparment. There is only one person there that has been helpful at all to me and she owns the place. I asked her about plants and she gave me something else, anacharis, she said the plant I have needs a lot of light. This is definitely not the first time something like this has happened. Plant is gone, I'm recieving a low light plant package sometime next week. Thanks for everyone's help btw, when you say substrate, does this mean I can't just stick the plant in my regular gravel and expect it to root? -Amy
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Uh... microsword has rather high-light requirements. I had it for a while in my tank and wound up getting rid of it because I didn't have enough light and will it wasn't dying, per se, it wasn't flourishing. *shrugs*

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I bought a plant (recommended by my lfs) and put it in my tank. When I took it out of the pot it was in all of a sudden the whole tank got cloudy. I'm not sure why. I've waited a few days and it's not going away really. Anyone know why this would happen? -Amy
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heres a question. what kind of plant is it. make sure its a true aquatic in good condition. if its not it may have rotted and got the water cloady. or if its already kinda rotting
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I have the filter cartridges that came with the filter, and I have my own carbon to put in, just changed the carbon about 2 weeks ago. I'll start those water changes too. Thanks again for all your help
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Hi,
Actually, No, you don't "dump the carbon into the water!"
It goes in your filter. If you did not already get a
fine mesh bag with the filter, you will need one to contain
the carbon and much of the carbon dust. Put the carbon
before the filter floss so the raw water flows through
the carbon and then into the rest of the filter.
That will help clear the excess nutrients, and the water
changes will do the rest.

Glad we could help!

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I dump the carbon right into the water? how much? and I assume I should rinse the dust out first or no?
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Try water changes of about 50% a week, and watch your parameters. Also, you might try adding some charcol or activated carbon, to the water. This will help clear it up as well.

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wow..call me stupid.

so I asked the woman at the fish store, "How do I plant this in my tank?" she said all I need to do is take it out of the pot and stick it in my gravel. So that's what I did, wondering what in the world that was around the roots. Didn't want to pull it off for fear that I'd disturb the roots somehow. Explains a lot huh? Sooo how do I go about fixing this one? I told her when I bought the plant I don't want anything fancy because I can't afford all that CO2 and fertilizer and stuff. She picked this out. I simply have regular gravel for an aquarium. obviously I picked the wrong person to talk to or she just assumed I should be smart enough to know all this. Anyway, thanks for your help and sorry for not answering those questions at first -Amy

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Hi,
You did not reply to the question asking about how you
planted the new plant.
When potted plants are purchased, they must be taken out
of the pot and, under running water, the rock wool that
is wrapped around the roots must be carefully removed.
At the same time any dead or dying roots, and leaves should
be removed, and then plant it where you want it in the
tank.
If you planted the plant with the rockwool attached then
you introduced a very large amount of nutrients into the
tank and probably caused a bacteria bloom.

You don't mention what you have for substrate (gravel)
some types, such as Flourite, will give off clouds of
clay particles when it is disturbed and only time and a
good filter will remove it from the water.

Hope this help...
Frank


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I've decided to remove the plant altogether, I have new plants coming anyways and I can't seem to figure out what made the water so cloudy. Thanks for your replies
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