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i cant keep coraling algea away!

Oh you poor thing Darryle.

What salt and calcium supplements are you using?

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

reef crystals( you knw wht i mean ) andim using a aqua-medic 400 calcium reactor

ohhh, AM calc reactor huh? Sounds nifty. *jealous*

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

How are those reef crystals? I was thinking of switching over to that salt from the regular IO.

Tank's lookin good(but empty) Ferret. It would look bigger if you don't reduce the image size as much and crop out as much of the black area as possible. That starfish is probably half as big as my tank.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

reef crystals are brill IMO better thn IO

brill?

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

I know. It is so empty.

It really really needs to be filled up.

When I get settled into my new job and have good money coming in, I'm going to do a big order from Serdar and get some nice stuff. Or at least, that's my plan as of now.

Switch to Tropic Marin. It's the best you'll have available.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

reef crystals are alot better than TM

brill = brillaint

Tropic Marin isn't available. reef crystals are though, so I think after my bucket of IO is gone I'll start up with the reef crystals.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

nope...

TM ranks better over reef crystals. The only thing at the same level as Tropic Marin is AquaMedic, which is practically available only in the Western US.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

nah iv used TM ( normal),TM pro , kent and Reef crystals and i think tht RC is better

Tropic Marin is def. better than Reef crystals....The numbers as far as trace elements dont lie

Are we all in agreement that reef crystals are better than regular IO?

*didn't mean to start a salt war*

*throws IO @ ferret*

Last edited by mattyboombatty at 12-Jan-2006 20:55

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

if everybody thought the same the world would be a dull place


yes RC are better thn IO

*giggles* !!!


Reef Crystals can be better than Instant Ocean...

...but Tropic Marin does top all. Like Nate said, most trace elements from any other salt.

Darryle, what makes you not like it?

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

when i used it a got a algea bloom tested the PO4 in my RO they were nill then tested P04 in the salt mix and it had a PO4 reading

That's weird...

Something somewhere along the line had to be contaminated because I've never had a phosphate problem with TM, nor do I know anybody else who has.

Oceanic was famous for algae blooms...

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

lol im all alone ;(

indeed

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

got any new corals yet?

Nope.

Reef club meeting on Saturday though. We'll see!!!

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

No they aren't, they just remind me of 'em.

I was getting worried about you mister...

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

got new pics then ?

No need to worry about me Im around....just not visible

Any tips for me Nate?

Nope, I think you are handling things just fine

EDIT: Nate, please stop making fun of my 10k's, or send me new bulbs

How many do you need? We are getting ready to order some on a "demo" to try them out so we can decide if we want to sell them or not

Last edited by DarkRealm Overlord at 15-Dec-2005 18:53

I need two new bulbs. You know that though.

I'll gladly try some new 20K's for you!

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Any chance you could post some pictures Liana?

Last edited by swiftshark88 at 18-Dec-2005 14:13

Nick
"Impossumable- unable to play dead"

Why cant I see page 7?

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

same i cant see page 7.

im so confused? every day is january 4th?


Nick
"Impossumable- unable to play dead"

Any updates Liana? i know you said you were going to a Reef club meeting, and i thought that some of your posts were deleted as well. Anything new?

Nick
"Impossumable- unable to play dead"

Ah!

Okay, it's working now.

I have some new shots to upload.

Thanks for the reminder.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

waiting

Time for pictures yet

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

I know I know I'm sorry guys.

Believe it or not I do have a life outside of FP.

I'll upload pictures today, I promise.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Alright Alright! Dial up users beware!

No more complaining. New shots.

Notice the growth in these zoas.




New Clam: T. squamosa



Having trouble w/ a nice shot of this: A. horrida









This guy doesn't sit still for a second...he's getting thin though I'm worried.



idk what this is...



Asst. Frags & Fish













Birdsnest, showing little color but great growth





I dont remember what this is either...



Full tank w/ halides (before we put the new fans in)



Full tank w/ T5s (with the new silent fans in the back )




I guess that's enough for now. Sorry some of the shots are crummy...I'm learning.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

last acro pic looks like a A. vallia ( im sure thts the name)


you running a ca reactor?

Not yet Darryle. Dripping kalk like crazy though.

Prolly upgrading the system to the 120 within the next two months, and i'll consider setting one up then.

Which reminds me...nate you owe me stuff on kalk vs calc reactors.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

That last acro is a nice color....still like those pink zoos though. Pics are getting better, you just need to take more. I bet curved glass doesn't help a whole lot either.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

ca reactors runn high calcium but can drop kh while kalk is dangerous and can wipe out a tank but will keep your KH high ( this is why most people tht run calcium reactors drip kalk at night )

How can a kalk reactor wipe out a tank?

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

I am curious to that as well Matt.

And everyone I now that runs a calcium reactor drip kalk 24/7. Or they have theirs set up with the computer to drip when needed, whether it be day or night.

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There is always a bigger fish...

because you can over dose it

http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=52250&hl=kalk

Well Nano, I add my kalk all at once. Causes a big white cloud in the tank, and does not clear for about a day. Never lost anything in the tank from doing it this way. I does weekly this way. IMO, that person was wrong to say it was a kalk overdose. But maybe he was pushing the line on the ammount he added. Who knows. But the point is, you can cause a crash with an overdose of calcium as well. And really with an overdose of just about anything you can have devistating results.

But that is the first ever I have read about a kalk overdose killing the corals, yet not harming the fish in any way. After all, kalk is basically pickling lime and is caustic. So if it was damaging the corals, I think it should have shown some damaging effects on the fish as well. In his thread he did not even mention any of the parameters and such, so as to know how much of an overdose he had. I would be more interested in the numbers than just taking someones word for it.

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There is always a bigger fish...

and one of my other friends lost his tank to a kalk over dose as well

not wanting to start a debate on it i was just telling MO

No, that's fine Nano. I have just not heard of it. I know what the water parameters will do if you add too much, as well as what they will do if you add too much Calcium. I was just curiuous as to how they came up with the idea that it was a kalk overdose. As they just stated it, and did not give any parameters or such to determine how they came up with it. And as I already stated, I still do it the old fashion way of dumping it right in. Although most of the old fashion ways are done with smaller doses on a daily basis. But I have never had any problems adding mine on a weekly basis.

No worries though.

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There is always a bigger fish...

you may have your thread back now ferret

kl no worries acidrain

haha thanks boys

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

haha, I sent a message to my friend Del, who explains how Kalk and a calcium reactor benefit from each other.

Hope you can follow

Alright my young chemist friend. Here is your lesson for the day.

When you mix calcium hydroxide in water the reaction is:

Ca(OH)2 disassociates to Ca++ and 2 OH-
That's the easy one.

When you bubble CO2 through calcium carbonate several things happen.

The CO2 forms carbonic acid (lowering the pH) which disassociates to release
free H+ ions in the water.

The low pH breaks down the carbonate to calcium and bicarbonate ions as in:

CaCO3 + H- to Ca++ and HCO3-

Here's how the 2 help each other.

The free OH- ion from the kalk reacts with excess CO2 from the reactor to
form more HCO3-

Bottom line...

Kalk uses C02 from the water (supplied by the calcium reactor)to form bicarbonate ions (that corals use more freely to build skeleton)

HTH

Nate

I know that CO2 really lowers the pH in a freshwater planted aquarium. In my tank the tap water has about a pH of 8, and with CO2 injection, it has a pH of 6.5.

Assuming, that we are actually injecting CO2 here, does the calcium reactor just use a lot less co2, or is there something in the chemistry of saltwater stated above that buffers the pH?

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

Okay, so I follow that...but bottom line, how does one have a bigger advantage than the other?

Is it worth getting both?

Which is more productive I guess.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

It is def. worth getting both...by using the kalk in combination with the calcium reactor you are getting more usable product for your corals, thus creating faster growth.

Alright...I had a feeling you'd say both.

I'm assuming calcium reactor first though?

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

You are already dripping Kalk, so yes I would do the calcium reactor first.....a Kalk reactor is just an automated way of adding the kalk. You will get the same benefits from dripping kalk and using a calcium reactor.

'ello?

Edit: the thread worked for me!

Works fine for me too! ~DRO

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

Matt, you said your ocellated dragonette is getting thin, how is it now? What do you feed everybody? How long have you had the live rock in there? Have you ever added copepods to the tank? Have you ever added newly hatched brine shrip?

I'm only asking because they are one of my favorite s/w fish and the one I have was the first in my tank after it was cycled. I love the little buggers and want to see yours do well!

Matt, you said your ocellated dragonette

This is Liana's (Ferretfish's) thread, she has a dragonette. I haven't heard much from her lately though, hope everythings going well.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

Hey Guys

Sorry I haven't posted in awhile. I've been really busy. Went on a ski trip then on a retreat with my youth group, and I'm trying to keep up with the horrors of junior year while maintaining my social life as well. It's a lot harder than it sounds. Lol.

I actually haven't seen the starry dragonet in a few days now. He was looking thin, I'm not sure why.

No new additions to the tank but NERAC II is this weekend. And I'm a volunteer. Sweet. Ya'll should fly over for it!!!

Sorry I have no cool news other than good coral growth.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

mehh...

no terribly interesting corals at the conference

good raffles though, can't wait for tomorrow

and nate be jealous we're hogging anthony and julian for the weekend

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Hog all you want...cause I can call Anthony if I wanted

maybe so but isn't it so much nicer talking to anthony in person?

we're going to chat about the 120 i'm getting next weekend, and how to do auto water change on it...and maybe i'll even bring you up...that'd be funny...

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

So I sat with Anthony for a bit at lunch, and we discussed the whole auto water change thing in full. Sounds like there's a couple of ways to do it. I'm gunna have to do some research.

He did a fragging workshop, and then later things were auctioned. Guess who won the leather he demonstrated trimming on...of which I really dont neeed...

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

okay...

who wants a leather coral...

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

LMAO, not me...I have a friend that has a leather that he has to frag every month and usually gets 5-8 frags out of it. Plus there is only one leather that I will keep and Im sure the one you have isnt it

this isn't funny...

I dont even know what kind it is b/c i'm softy retarded...

it is sort of neat looking... when you squint...

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Dad went out to get the wood for the new tank today.

Nate i'll laugh at you if my new one is up before yours.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

I doubt it will be...but if it is then you can laugh all you want....I have more stuff to plumb up than you do

Oh and right now Im having fun cutting more holes in the wall and floor

This thing is getting expensive...I was drilling the holes in the tank last night and burnt up my drill...had to go buy another one

Good job buddy.

We have to plumb a lot of things that we aren't used to though...like auto top off and whatnot. And we have to drill a big hole for our tank too.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish