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	Scooter Blennies/Mandarins
IgOtSoMeFiSh Banned Posts: 26 Kudos: 24 Votes: 0 Registered: 16-Jan-2005	Im just wondering how well established/ how big / lighting a tank would have to be to sustain scooter blennies or mandarins. my friend has a 75 gallon reef tank with 220 watt PC's that is just starting up (still going through nitrification cycle) and my tank is 50 gal with 95 watt PC's thats 3 months old thanks
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003	Nither one is really big enough. They eat pods that live on the live rock. Adn to keep a population that is large enough for a fish like this you really need about 100+ pounds or live rock and a tank over 100 gals. Closer to 150 on both is a real good idea. Dan
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
kamikaze76 Hobbyist Posts: 63 Kudos: 62 Votes: 69 Registered: 24-Aug-2004	Usually I agree with everything DThurs comments on, but here I would have to disagree on a technicality. These tanks would be large enough given more time, plenty of live rock, and use of a fishless refugium with plenty of live rock rubble. The goal would be to have this established enough to produce plenty of copepods, which means that you cannot have any other fish that will compete with the mandarins for the Pods either. Without the refugium, DThurs comments are right on target. John
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003	I agree, with a refugium there is an area where the pods can bread and grow with out being eaten. Then yes, a smaller tank will work, but when you add the two tanks together, you will find the size will still come out about the same. So in effect, we are both correct. Dan
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
IhAvEsOmEfIsH Hobbyist Posts: 145 Kudos: 95 Votes: 2 Registered: 13-Aug-2004	how do you oiunce refugium? Is it REEF-EEJ-E-UM or REF-U-JI-UM
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003	I'm not even sure, I ounce it Re-FUG-e-um. Atleast that's how everyone around here says it. Dan
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
IgOtSoMeFiSh Banned Posts: 26 Kudos: 24 Votes: 0 Registered: 16-Jan-2005	hmm, question on copepods/isopods in REFUGE-ium, they would just flow from there to main tank and the mandarins would eat them there? i thought they were like large visible parasites
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
fishheadfred Fish Addict Posts: 708 Kudos: 653 Votes: 12 Registered: 30-Jul-2003	There is only one isopod thats a parasite that I know of.The rest of the pod family are considered tiny crustaceans.I have 80 to 100lbs live rock in my tank and another 10 in my fuge.I will be adding another 20 to the fuge just for this purpose.They travel to and fro via the return pump and the overflow.I have seen some chopped up shoot out of the retrn tube but most seem to make it. On another note there are several online vendors selling them now.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003	They are small enough to freely go threw the pumps and in to the main tank. Dan
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
IgOtSoMeFiSh Banned Posts: 26 Kudos: 24 Votes: 0 Registered: 16-Jan-2005	so would naturally growing isopods or copepods be the only way to sustain one, and on refugiums, i have no undertank or overtank space to fit one, is there a method to circulate water between the two tanks say 2-3 feet away?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
lil_mikey69 Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3180 Kudos: 2380 Votes: 1 Registered: 22-Jan-2003	You can def. have the tanks far apart. Some people even keep them on completely different levels of their houses coughs. Of course thats going to be a lot more time and money into your setup, but its very possible with some know how and some $$$
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
dthurs Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 4340 Kudos: 4170 Votes: 529 Registered: 18-Feb-2003	It's simply a mater of running pipe between the two and pumping the water. You would need check valves or some way to ensure the water levels stay the same between the tanks Dan
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28
wayneta Mega Fish Posts: 1264 Kudos: 236 Votes: 9 Registered: 12-Feb-2001	ounced reh-foo-JEE-um Last edited by wayneta at 25-Jan-2005 21:49
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:28


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