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GobyFan2007
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Bettas deserve better care.

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While I am in general with you on "Bettas deserve better care", I am not too wild on the way the Care field extension is phrased.

I would rather see this as a suggestion than a requirement, as in:

The minimal size tank should be 2.5 -5 gallon as this will let their fins grow to full size and make for an overall happier fish.

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Post InfoPosted 25-Feb-2007 20:59Profile PM Edit Report 
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Post InfoPosted 25-Feb-2007 21:18Profile Homepage PM Edit Report 
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sorry guys, i was in a rush so i just typed it quickly. Maybe someone else will word it better?

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Post InfoPosted 25-Feb-2007 21:57Profile Homepage AIM PM Edit Report 
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GobyFan2007,

Hey, there is no saying that you cannot try it again yourself. Just wait until this one is locked and then find a spot when you have more time to word it better. Rushing is never good.

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Post InfoPosted 25-Feb-2007 23:32Profile PM Edit Report 
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I didn't know the size of a betta's fins was limited by the size of the tank it's kept in...



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Post InfoPosted 25-Feb-2007 23:51Profile Homepage AIM MSN PM Edit Report 
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Yes natalie it is. In a small confined space, the betta cant move around and excercise as much, so its fins will get cramped. LITTLE_FISH, thanks for the advice, and i will try again later. Srry if this upsetted any of you.

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Post InfoPosted 26-Feb-2007 03:45Profile Homepage AIM PM Edit Report 
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Yeah its a minor wording thing, id rather see bettas in bigger tanks too, and technically a betta in well oxygenated water should never have to resort to using its labyrinth organ anyway, but hey its probably advice put there in case some idiot decides that some bettas can live without oxygen full stop.Theres quite a few errors in the profiles. I dont think you upset anyone dude. Thats my job The profiles are what they are- brief!

Technically the fin size wont be affected by the tankspace,not unless dwarfing occurs anyway,its genetically inherited from the parents, its just that better exercised fish tends to have more erectile fins as they have better basal muscles thusly showing them off to the best advantage.

Its a superficial thing looks thing with a real fitness issue behind it.

I certainly cant argue with wanting to see better and fitter bettas though. Id never keep any fish in less than a 5 gal anyway, I dont believe it to be truly humane, but I guess thats a matter of choice for some people.

Your right, IMO bettas do need to be better treated, but your fighting the status quo here kid , always a tricky thing to do, but youd always get my support.Im not a big fan of the lowest common denominators of keeping either, but ive been in this arguement before , and people do not like to change, especially if that means an admission of guilt on their part.

Some people act all shocked when you tell them bettas need more than a pint glass to live in , seriously, its like a mental illness or something! Welcome to the human race.

Try the little by little approach as Ingo says. We'll get bettas a better deal if we have to do it a fluid ounce at a time In the meantime hit the betta forums with what you think, and see if you can start to change opinion. Thats what theyre there for. Fishkeeping attitudes do change eventually, so go get cracking in the appropriate place, and ILL meet you there! I dont think fp endorsing slightly larger tanksizes for bettas is a bad thing, after all the more water you have , the easier it is to maintain the quality, and the less often people will screw up and kill their bettas.

Its like people who want bonsai, or any thing else small, they dont like to give up their mini-nano-macro-subatomic hobbies, despite the fact that there are fish that are actually smaller that they could do it with,but hey ho.

I kept a betta in a 30 gal once,many years ago when I was starting out, and behaviourally it was like it wasnt even related to these fish people keep in tiny tanks, it was bigger stronger, more colourful and more strident than most. It lived 5 years too. It swam in current with grace, ate like a horse, never had a sick day in its life and tried to own the whole tank. My dad had a couple for years in a 30 gal too, they really couldnt have been any happier, they never fought and they bred. The main difference i always saw was the sheer posture difference in the fish, Firm muscles, grace in the water, real bulk with streamlining.Most peoples bettas look to be like little hunchback transvestites who could do with being let out for a run to me The bettas in the 70's were better.Healthier for one thing, and they lived a hell of a lot longer too.

Half the time Im sure I dunno what half of them are talking about. To me a betta is just another slightly moody aquarium fish that lives just like a lot of other bigger bettas do. I never did get the whole small tank thing .
Post InfoPosted 26-Feb-2007 07:09Profile MSN PM Edit Report 
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Reword as others said.



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