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ok hi! I'm new! to both the forum and pretty much to fish keeping aswell. I've got 8 neons in my tank and a couple are looking a little funny,

symptoms:
white cloudy mark in middle of body just where red line starts, on one in particular this mark is going into his blue line, none of them showing in sign of distress or odd swimming.

is this NTD? if so what should i do?
in the 29G tank i have 4 panda cories. 1 small plec, and 2 swords. will they be ok if i leave the neons? or should i give all the neons a 21 flush salute?

thanks in advance

Cynical.

The first thing I'd do -- FAST --is remove and euthanize that one Neon (or, if you have a quarantine tank, at least isolate him and wait to see if isn't real NTD and he recovers). It's conceivable tht you could nip it in the bud before it spreads to anyone else. Also, I'd recommend adding both quinine and nitrofurazolidine to the tank, on the chance that one or the other of them could kill off the free-swimming organisms.


I have no real knowledge of how well NTD spreads to Corys and livebearers -- I can only vouch for the fact that it wil go after cyprinids and (probably) loaches. If any of your other Neons show symptons of it, it's more or less a coin-toss (at least as far as I myself know) whetehr you ought to ditch all the other Neons or see if you can ride it out. Other people may know more.

Also you can get false neon tetra desease which is called saddleback columnaris so i would check that out before you go for ntd.

Right -can you get antibiotic fish medicine?

If so, isolate the Neon and begin treatment with antibiotics. If his neon line is being eroded, it is either true NTD which is a disaster or false which is treatable. You dont want to destroy a tank for false NTD.

If he recovers, then it was fNTD, he may die anyway, but if he shows definite signs of recovery before death, then it is a good sign. If it is NTD, he will deteriorate and die anyway, no way to stop it. The you will need to QT the tank permenantly until all its occupants die when you will be able to dispose of all the tank materials, sterilise the tank and start again. And no, I'm not exaggerating. That is why irt is vital that you work out what you are up against.

If it is NTD, DO NOT flush the body, the spores are NOT KILLED by chlorine, and they will take hold in groundwater, which can be catastrophic for native fish stocks. Burn it if you can or bury it, as the spores will die in dry soil.

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I like to think that whoever designed marine life was thinking of it as basically an entertainment medium. That would explain some of the things down there, some of the unearthly biological contraptions

Cynical

NTD can be very nasty and also be extemly expensive to cure.

I have not seen it for many years now. If I remember correctly it is at the base of the tale and wotks it way back up the body it appears to be a whitish/clear in colour and the Neon finally looses all it colour.
In the past I have used human medications with some sucess


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Neon Tetra Disease

Caused by: infection due to the parasite Pleistophora.

Symptoms: Heavily infected fish lose color (esp. the red stripe in Neon Tetras), have curvature of the spine, fin rot, and emaciation. Tetras seem especially susceptible to this infection, although other fishes can be affected as well.

Occurrences: These parasites pass easily from fish to fish. The disease seems to be triggered by poor water conditions, and secondary infections are very common.

Treatment/Control: treat infected fish with Furan 2 or General Cure


Keith

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