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fishyhelper288
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ok, i was attempting to breed my friend's pair, she told me they had been living with eachother for quite a while in a very small container (the divided tanks walmart sells..she took the divider and all out) when i recieved them she told me they were seperated for a short while, but she added them to the same baggy for the trip to my house, both appeared slightly nipped, the male more than the female, but just to be safe i seperated them in 1 gallon square containers next to eachother with all my other bettas, afetr a week of conditioning them, i added them to the divided 10 gallon with 2 other pairs, 1 pair bred but the male ate every egg() the other pair are getting along fine with eachother, and i htought her pair was getting on fine...a few days went by and the both appeared a little nipped, i htought not much of it but decided to keep a close eye on the situation....3 days ago i checked on her and saw the horror! she was in pieces, realy bad it looks at if she litterally went through a cheese grater:#( so i took a small betta container (on efrom walmart) scooped her up in it (without touching her with a net or anything) she made no protest, she is in so much pain she cant move, she floats still though, i treated her with primafix, and left her in the dark.

the next day i looked at her and the finrot was actually gone, and the swelling maybe went down, but now her wounds were red, but she was moving her pectoral fins more, and was no longer clamped. so i decided to move her to a long waiting 2 gallon with meds i think quick cure and maybe somthing else (i dont like to mix meds ) oh, and i added a small dossage of salt. (i just poured her in gently, let the water slowly enter, and took the cup out gently, no current)

this morning she is better, but still looking very sad i am keeping the light off (i think it looks too bright) and i am not feeding her as of yet.

is there anything else i can do for her? i have to tell her owner today too
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Fishyhelper

Sounds like you are doing the correct things you also can add the Melafix and certainly keep the light away from her and another suggestion dont put her with a male again also be cautious of that male he could be rather aggressive to any female.

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yea, i wasnt planning on even trying to breed her, and the male wont be alloud to again, unless in a 20 long
but she isnt looking good very shallow breathing
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Easy solution:

Don't keep male and female bettas together unless it's a short stay for spawning purposes.

Seems obvious enough to me.
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they were suppost to be breeding

*sorry thought i mentioned that..maybe i did*

but she died yesterday and the male is now my main bubble nest donator, does a great job too although she was a nice female
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Ok.....long answer time.

You said you were spawning these 3 pairs in a divided 10 gallon tank. So you have about 3 gallons per pair and a footprint of about 6" by 10" for each. Of course the females are going to get beat up, they don't have enough space to hide and get away from the males. You should be using one 10 gallon or similarly sized tank for each pair to minimize aggression. JMO. You also need a good amount of plants for the female to hide in if the male won't leave her alone.

You said they had been in there for a few days before you noticed any injury. When you're breeding bettas the idea is to keep the amount of time the male spends in the tank to a minimum to reduce the risk of injury to the female. This is why people keep the male and female separated until the bubble nest has been built, the pair has been conditioned and flirting a bit and the female is ready to spawn. When they're ready to go, the dividers are removed and the pair should spawn within 24-48 hours. You noticed they were looking beat up before she started looking really bad, at that point I would have removed them and terminated the spawning attempt.

i treated her with primafix, and left her in the dark.

the next day i looked at her and the finrot was actually gone, and the swelling maybe went down, but now her wounds were red, but she was moving her pectoral fins more, and was no longer clamped. so i decided to move her to a long waiting 2 gallon with meds i think quick cure and maybe somthing else (i dont like to mix meds ) oh, and i added a small dossage of salt. (i just poured her in gently, let the water slowly enter, and took the cup out gently, no current)


You don't like to mix meds but you used pimafix, quick cure, salt, and maybe something else.

For most injuries all you need to use is clean water, possibly a bit of melafix and/or salt. Quick cure is a dye based medication that is meant for treating ich and other external invertebrate parasites. Quick cure is a very stressful treatment, especially for a fish with severe injuries. It's quite possible that treatment with Quick Cure could be fatal to a badly injured or stressed fish. NEVER treat a fish with any medication unless you know what you're doing.

I have said it in your threads many times before, you need to examine your fish husbandry practices and make the appropriate changes to give your fish the care they deserve.
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