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[font color="#C00000"]~~~~~***Update***~~~~~~

Ok, well, heres the deal:

Since my mom is the Co-Signer, she legally owns the apartment. My other roommate, Jon, is a subleaser, as am I. As for the former Rooomates stuff, the cops have deemed it Abandoned property, and I can do with it as I please. Because I am a nice person, I have let them decide: They have until the 1st to completely move out, or they can stay until the 31st and pay rent for January. The day they move out, is the last day ANYTHING of theirs may stay there. The landlords, and local pd have said that it will be considered 'abandoned property' and I can sell it or whatever I want.

They made threats against me, and my friends, OVER MY VOICEMAIL, and they tried to pick the lock to my room. ^_^ So we're kicking them out. They have no where to go, they can't go back to their parents, and they don't have enough credit to rent anywhere else.

Plus, On Christmas Eve, they threatened me and a bunch of other things, WHILE I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. I just barely got out yesterday. My Appendix was about to explode. Went into surgery at 11 on the 24th, and when I was in recovery, they paid someone to try and tell me that my room had been broken into and such. *We checked out my room and everything was fine*

Been a really long week. On the upper hand, since I'm still recovering, I am home for a week straight. ^_^ no work, school, or anything like that! So what do ya'll think?

~*MO*~[/font]

I hope the new year is better for yourself and your mother. Good luck on finding better room mates.

As for finding a roomate in the USA try this:

[link=http://www.roomate.com]http://www.roomate.com" style="COLOR: #FFFFFF[/link]

*hug*

Goodluck!

Koi

Empty chairs at empty tables, the room silent, forlorn.

Wow Mo, this sure proves my point about not knowing someone til you move in with them. You didnt have any idea on their personality before you moved in with them? You gotta be so careful who you share house with.

I hope the next roomies are much better. Now go rest missy!

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Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes. That way you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

[font color="#C00000"]Thank you everyone so much for your continued support. It just, really hasn't been my year. *shrugs* But all I can do is just keep truckin', right?

These are the latest updates: The former roommates have found a slight loophole in my eviction. They were told they could either be OUT by or on the 1st, OR they could pay rent for January, and be out by the 31st, provided that they leave me alone, no more nasty prank calls from them or their friends, no blocking their calls, leaving me alone, and treating me with respect was what they were going to do, or they were kicked out regardless of the rent they paid.

So, because they are still children, they are going to move out on the first. Then, they think they are free to do whatever they please to me off, scare me, or hurt me. I have learned from a few other people who are freinds with us both, that they have made extra keys to the locks on the apartment so that they can break in later.

So, I am getting a restraining order, changing my phone number again (had to do that for the psycho who wanted to kill me), the apartment managers are already planning on changing the locks on the first, and just in case, my friends, are going to take care of them if they find a way to get to me anyways. But regardless of what I ask these friends, they aren't going to just stand by. But I did convince them to not do anything until something was done to me.

*shrugs* Of course that leaves me with the problem of rent. After my surgery, my wreck eariler in november, christmas, and now my mom's health problems, we don't have enough money to pay for rent, unless I can find someone soon.

My mom has to have some major life/death situation surgery, and in Cleveland, Ohio (because it's the best Kidney Hospital in Amercia). She's really stressing out about all of this mess and I feel rotten for making it worse. But...wow...I just don't know what to do. I have some prospective rommies, and it's coming down to whoever will move in the soonest.

This whole thing was so childish, and I am just so depressed that I lost two people who I thought were my friends. Then on top of that, there is my mom, the money, and an empty room next to mine. ***BTW***I forgot to mention that I was ordered on Bed Rest until the 2nd. So I'm not staying in the Apartment, my best friend is actually holding down fort for me to make sure they don't harm the apartment or my stuff. ****

And you know, I'm not saying that it's completely their fault. Because in the beginning, when it wasn't so serious of a matter, I wrote notes back too, and I joined in on the talking back. So it's just as much their fault as mine. I just wish they could have stopped like I did.

I think that's all for catching up now.

~*MO*~[/font]

OMG, you have had such a difficult time! I don't post that often but I've read some of your previous posts and my heart goes out to you. I had difficulties with a roommate in college (not nearly as bad as yours) and I feel for you. It's hard when you're dealing with awful, disrespectful people who really just don't give a ____ about anyone but themselves. All I can suggest is don't hesitate to call the police if they come around and you feel threatened. Better to have the cops come out and not risk getting harmed. Good luck to you and please be very careful, especially when going out in the evening. Do you have a mace or pepper spray on your keychain? If not, you may want one. And remember that there are lots of people on here who care.

-Beth

Oh yeah, I forgot something. Get a Rottie.

-Keith #2

http://www.ozarkgames.com

Ack, I had my appendex removed 2 summers ago, this is not what you need right now.

I'd give them the MINIMUM amount of time required by law, in your state to move out. Have your mom serve them their evection notice, and in the mean time I would suggest not staying home alone, and not leaving your home until they are gone.

Worthless ba......

Betta Dragon
So sorry to hear the troubles are continuing...and that you have had to deal with surgery at the same time...


That is not what you need when you are recovering from surgery. Hope amongst it all you managed to have a good christmas and that you are recovering well.

Hope your household is calm and peaceful soon.

All the best for finding new roomies in the New Year.

New Years resolution: "NO MORE MORON ROOM MATES!"



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~~~ My fish blow kisses at me all day long ~~~

Forget the fingers; ask them which hand they want to keep. Pay someone to follow them around and take pictures of them....no reason, just to make them nervous. Take the valve stems outta their tires.If they have any vcr's or dvd payers, unscrew the covers and put dead fish in them, them replace covers Use your imagination.

http://www.ozarkgames.com

[font color="#C00000"]Oye. I am so mad that it's hard to type this all right now.

I love my roommates to death. Well, I really like Jon. But Amanda I love. She's my best friend, the only girl that hasn't deserted me or anything for the 6 years that I've known her.

Jons friends are morons. They just think it's hilarious to mess with my crap. I finally just got a new lock for my door because of them. The other night, they almost ransomed my fish. They told me that they were going to flush my fish or "make fish-ca-bobs and serve them up for [me] as a treat when got home".

But this time they bought a fish from the store and used him as an example.

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*insert curse words here*

So I removed EVERYTHING of mine from anywhere in the house that anyone could get to. Now, all my fish are in my tiny room, and since I don't have any room, some are on the floor because there is just simply no where else to keep them.

One of the guys who is doing this is terribly afraid of spiders. One of them, was a previous roommate in my apartment, and his crap is still in one of the two giant closets we have. So I have set an ultimatum and said that he has until my birthday to remove his crap or I am going to pawn it all.

But I don't know if I can legally do that. He asked if he could keep some stuff there for a while, and my roommate told him yes. But he didn't ask me. I am the one whose name is on the lease. Jon's is too, but my mom is also the co-signer. Does anyone here happen to know what kind of legal rights I have as to getting this guys stuff out of my apartment? And I have made it very well known to the ones who dare threaten my fish that I will take them to court for damages and the such if they even THINK about breaking into my room and trying to kill my precious fish.

Ugh.

I'm at a loss. I don't really know what I can and should do. Any suggestions or help?

~*MO*~[/font]

legally u cant sell what doesnt belong to u but u can give a reasonble time offer for the other party to remove the goods or get a peace bond n have the local police remove the items for u but if u move it to the curb urself it is essentially causing it to become stolen which is an offense in canada
if u dont want the guy round best is to get a peace bond

If she signed a lease she is either stuck living there, or may have to pay for the rest of the time the lease is valid. I'd go with the finger option

-Keith

http://www.ozarkgames.com

Going to court or living in unhappy conditions is not good for your health. Look for another place to live. Or if the place is in your name give them notice that you will be finding new roomies as of the 2nd week of January.

I know moving is a hassle but staying where you are unhappy just isn't worth it.


Hope things inprove soon pet.



Last edited by wish-ga at 20-Dec-2004 20:41

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~~~ My fish blow kisses at me all day long ~~~

The laws may be different in the U.S. versus Great Britain. It's very simple. Tellthem each dead/tortured fish=1 finger.

-Keith

http://www.ozarkgames.com

Does anyone here happen to know what kind of legal rights I have as to getting this guys stuff out of my apartment?

You dont, you need to get in touch with your landlord. Unless you own the place, you can't really get rid of other people's stuff like that, but your landlord can.

And I have made it very well known to the ones who dare threaten my fish that I will take them to court for damages and the such if they even THINK about breaking into my room and trying to kill my precious fish.

And that's also gonna be tricky if you havent signed a very particular sort of lease. IF youhave rented the whole flat together, and individual rooms aren't specifiedn in the contract, so it doesnt say "katy - room 6" for example, then, if their name is on the contract as a co-leaser, they do have the right to enter your room. Very few landlords will agree to locking individual rooms cos it changes the legal status of the property.

Last edited by tiny_clanger at 20-Dec-2004 05:56

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I like to think that whoever designed marine life was thinking of it as basically an entertainment medium. That would explain some of the things down there, some of the unearthly biological contraptions

If they killed it in an inhumane manor you might have something.. Like sticking it live and burning it to death. But then again fish aren't furry and courts and peta don't care unless it's furry .

As for the guys stuff, I agree with the above.

Last edited by john.stone at 20-Dec-2004 02:58

get it in writing tho.

Either get him to sign that he agrees, or send it via registered post so at least he has to sign that he recieved the notification.

Forget animal cruely, essentially they were cooking/eating a fish.

Fish are your possessions. You forked out good money for them, they have no rights to them.

If your friend had any respect for you as a roomie, he should pull his dingbat mates into line. Either that, or you could get some sort of restraining order to keep them off your property.

Last edited by Callatya at 20-Dec-2004 02:30

For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

Legally, in most places, you can give him a reasonable deadline (usually 10 days) by which he must remove all his belongings, or you, as the leaseholder, can sell them to cover storage costs.