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zeketaz Hobbyist Posts: 114 Kudos: 78 Votes: 1 Registered: 18-May-2009 | I have a 45 gallon tank and I'm not good with percentages. If I take out 3 gallons of water and add back the 3 gallons of water is that enough of a water change or should it be more like 4 or 5 gallons. I ran out of water tests and need to get some more today, but this morning my tiger barb was fine eating normal and swimming around then like 5 minutes ago it went belly up and was dead. My tank has been set up for well over 6 months and I'm at a loss especially since my bala shark is still alive. Also my water is still cloudy am I doing something wrong? I have a fluval 204 filter on it but don't have a sponge in it should I add that to it for better filtration? |
Posted 21-May-2009 15:55 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, In case no one has told you yet, welcome to Fish Profiles! With a 45 gallon tank, a 10% water change would be 4.5 or 4 and a half gallons. A 20% water change would be twice that or 9 gallons. There are probably a few things going on in the tank at the same time. What are you using for test kits and what are you adding to the water to eliminate the chlorine and chloramine? What did your tiger barb look like before it died? Did it look like this: http://animal-world.com/encyclo/fresh/cyprinids/tigerbarb.php Or, were the colors "washed out" or faint. Did it have anything on it, like grains of salt, or a white cloudy cottony film? What is the substrate (gravel) in the tank and when was the last time you vacuum cleaned it? What do you use to vacuum the gravel with? Of course we are going to need the results of a water test. What are the values for" pH, GH, KH, Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrate? What temperature is the water kept at? How are you performing your water changes and at what interval? How big is the shark? Sorry for all the questions, but the clues as to what is wrong are in the answers. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 21-May-2009 16:19 | |
zeketaz Hobbyist Posts: 114 Kudos: 78 Votes: 1 Registered: 18-May-2009 | I have an ammonia test kit a 6in1 test strip, well had I need to get more tests. I use ammo lock for the ammonia, and tried accu clear a while back to clear up my water with no luck. The fish was still fully colored, he looked the same as he did the day we bought him, no dull spots and no ick or other spots, and his fins looked fine and not nipped up. He was the red tiger barb and still had the pretty red glow when he bellied up. I had regular black gravel, but I haven't vacuumed it yet. I have rocks and plants in there that take up most of the space and am afraid of uprooting the plants if I try and vacuum the gravel. I need to get more test to find out what the ph and everything else is. I change the water every two weeks with RO water, and the water temp is 77* And the shark is only 2.5-3 inches long |
Posted 21-May-2009 17:40 | |
riri1 Fish Addict Posts: 537 Kudos: 435 Votes: 44 Registered: 04-Mar-2005 | cloudy water usealy mean bad water qulity......... what fish are in the tank?????? |
Posted 21-May-2009 21:40 | |
zeketaz Hobbyist Posts: 114 Kudos: 78 Votes: 1 Registered: 18-May-2009 | I had a dozen guppies until my husband bout me a tiger barb and bala shark. The barb ate all but 2 guppies. Then today my barb bellied up and I don't know why. So that leaves me with 2 guppies and the bala. |
Posted 22-May-2009 03:11 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, Hummm, The white cloudy water is the result of a bacteria bloom. This generally occurs as a result of over feeding and lack of proper aquarium maintenance. Barbs should be kept in schools of 5 or more and when kept that way they are less inclined to pester or nip at the other fish in the tank as they are too busy establishing their place in the shoal. Barbs are not a terrifically hardy fish and with poor water quality and and infrequent water changes it may have been overcome by the poor quality tank. If you can afford a better test kit, I would strongly suggest you switch to one of the liquid kits such as Aquarium Pharmaceuticals (API). http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+4345+4454&pcatid=4454 Test strips, while very inexpensive, are notorious for giving false results. They are strongly, negatively, affected by age, exposure to moisture, and light. When feeding, you and your "helpers" should know that a fish's stomach is no bigger than its eye. The old adage of never feeding more than what is eaten in a minute or so, or only feeding enough so that none of the food survives long enough to hit the bottom is good advice. Feeding twice a day, very small amounts, is better than a bunch right after the light comes on. The color of the gravel was not important, but the maintenance of the tank is. When changing the water, probably weekly, you should look at the tank as a whole and mentally section off the non-planted parts of the tank into four sections. Then, with each water change, vacuum a different section of the tank. That way, over a month, you will have cleaned the entire non-planted tank. Ideally, you want the Ammonia and Nitrite to be zero (your .25 is about right when using the water conditioner that you are), and the Nitrate should be zero to a max of 5 or 10 (depending upon the amount of live plants are in the tank). Lots of plants, allow the nitrate to read around 10. A token one or two the tank should have a nitrate reading of zero. You get that reading by frequent water changes, and regular gravel and filter cleaning. Exclusive use of RO water is not a good idea. RO water contains none of the minerals that the fish and plants need. Over time with consistent changes using only RO or Distilled water will completely fill the tank with it and the fish as well as plants will begin to suffer. For instance, we all need some salt in our diets, its adding the additional that is a bad idea, using what nature provides in the construction of the plants and foods that we eat is sufficient for good health. Doing away with any salt and all foods that are virtually salt free will upset our me across those walls in our bodies. The fish need the Magnesium, sodium, and other elements that are naturally found in water for the correct balance of their bodies. RO or Distilled water alone won't provide it. If you are trying to adjust something such as the GH or even pH by the use of the RO water, you should mix the RO water with the regular tap water to dilute the tap water. BTW, that shark can, over time grow to be 13 inches long! I hope this helps some... Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 22-May-2009 04:45 | |
riri1 Fish Addict Posts: 537 Kudos: 435 Votes: 44 Registered: 04-Mar-2005 | and to add on to the shark gets 13 inches it is a schooling fish and really need 100s of gallons to be truly happy..... |
Posted 22-May-2009 07:50 |
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