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Psyhampster Small Fry Posts: 7 Kudos: 8 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Nov-2004 | I'm going to be planting my 30 Gal. tank when it is ready. I know there are substrates made especially for plants, but I find them ugly. Can I mix plant substrate and normal gravel? Can some plants grow in just normal gravel? |
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:26 | |
Fallout Moderator Communications Specialist Posts: 6416 Kudos: 4053 Votes: 742 Registered: 29-Jul-2000 | You don't like flourite?? Probably the prettiest gravel i've ever used Plants will grow in a normal gravel substrate but you're better off with a plant-oriented substrate |
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FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, Actually, you have a couple of options. First, you can use 100% gravel. Gravel is pure silica (SiO2) and as such contains nothing to support plant growth. Instead it acts, as all substrates do, as a medium for the roots to anchor themselves into. The bacterial colonies that thrive in the gravel break down the fish waste, excess food, and dead/dying plant material into the nutrients (the nitrogen cycle) that the plants feed off of. If you set up the tank with a normal fish load, have the correct lighting for the correct duration, then the plants will grow as the nutrients become available. It will be a slow process, because the nutrients are not already present as if you were planting a well established tank. Rather you are starting from scratch and MAY have to add fertilizers too. I say may, because it will depend upon the quantity of fish. Second, and better, is a 50/50 ratio aquarium gravel and flourite or laterite. You use a la Mix either 50/50 flourite, or 50/50 laterite and place an inch and a half thick la on the glass bottom of the tank spread evenly across the whole surface. Then cap it with an inch and a half la inches of water in the tank CAREFULLY so as not to disturb the bottom la want them to grow. Plant the plants in the upper la only. Do not push them into the second la will grow roots down into the second la Be warned that when you uproot a plant, or vacuum too deeply, you will bring the clay through the cap la and muddy the tank. Check out these two sites first: http://home.infinet.net/teban/substrat.htm http://www.plantedtank.net/substratecalculator.html The best is 100% flourite, EcoComplete, Onyx, etc. The next best is 100% laterite under a cap la gravel. The 50/50 mix is primarly for folks who cannot afford the 100% solution as it can be expensive. Hope these thoughts help... Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
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Babelfish Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 | Just one more additional option, similar to what Frank mentioned, is that instead of using plain aquarium gravel, or pea gravel, is to use Shultz's Aquatic plant soil it's less expensive than aquarium gravel, and only slightly more expensive than pea gravel from a landscaping shop. Only drawback is that like flourite, it's red. ^_^ |
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Fallout Moderator Communications Specialist Posts: 6416 Kudos: 4053 Votes: 742 Registered: 29-Jul-2000 | Flourite red is red, reg'lar flourite is brown And what's wrong with red? |
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Babelfish Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 | Nothing Tim, but I know there are substrates made especially for plants, but I find them ugly.figured they didnt like it cause it was abnormally colored. ^_^ |
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:26 | |
Fallout Moderator Communications Specialist Posts: 6416 Kudos: 4053 Votes: 742 Registered: 29-Jul-2000 | Yes, but flourite reg'lar is one of the prettiest substrates out there, kind of like you!! only not a substrate... *runs* |
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:26 | |
Babelfish Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 | Wait, flourite isnt' a substrate now , you're gonna confuse the daylight delux bulbs outa the people ! What I was trying to say was that some people want a less red or brown or multi colored substrate... I think that's what I was trying to say . ^_^ |
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Fallout Moderator Communications Specialist Posts: 6416 Kudos: 4053 Votes: 742 Registered: 29-Jul-2000 | right, and then you used "drawback" and "flourite" in the same sentance, bad babel *takes away caffeiene privelages* I just like flourite and when he said he didn't like planted tank substrates, i had to speak up!! |
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:26 | |
Psyhampster Small Fry Posts: 7 Kudos: 8 Votes: 0 Registered: 27-Nov-2004 | "It will be a slow process, because the nutrients are not already present as if you were planting an already established tank" I'm going to be using a filter cartridge from my established tank, and some of the water from it aswell. Will this help? Also, if I decide to do just plain gravel, can you suggest some plants that would work? |
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:26 | |
Babelfish Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 | Filter cartridge will help, but you'll be losing alot of the bacteria that's present in the substrate (where most of your biofilter is located actually ). Alot of plants will do just fine in plain gravel...I'd suggest poking your head in over in the planted forum . ^_^ |
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