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One of my favourite fish in the entire fish world would have to be loaches they are interesting fish to look at and have interesting habits but unfortunately they arent allowed in australia apparently due to the law (people releasing them in to our waterways) yaddda yadda yadda... the only loaches that are allowed or from what i have seen are clown loaches & Kuhli Loaches... but i want different varieties such as yoyo's and zebras for example... if they do come they are extremely pricey $80AU bout $50 US ... I hope i dont speak just for me but for everyone in aus who likes loaches. Lets start something so we can have them imported here!

[span class="edited"][Edited by wilsta 2004-07-25 19:27][/span]

Wilsta

You could could open a big can of worms here. Yes you and many others could be a very responsible fish keepers.
It only takes one person then the fun starts. An examply would be the European Carp that has completly ruined many a river and waterways in Aust.
Another thing to look at is if an area is flodded what happens then many species could and have been released this way. This has happened with breeding farms.

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I understand keithgh but whats the difference between having clown loaches here but not zebra loaches can someone please tell me the difference. why have any imported fish at all for that matter... they must think that zebra or paki loaches are a pest rather than pet... Its just sad that we dont have the opportunity to have them and be socially acceptable for the consumer and fishlover in Australia... yet they sell some species which are pests! i cant comprehend the differences in laws that we have here

you can get yoyo's.

they are about $40 each.



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Yes i know i have seen them but why are they so expensive and why arent they common like other loaches eg. kuhli and clowns. This is the reason why i made this thread

Where have you seen them?

Penrith.

they aren't common because of the import thing, there will be pockets of breeders around the country breeding either from old stock or stock that came in accidentally/illegally. that is why they are $$, cause there arent many of them.

its not illegal to sell them or trade in them, just to import them.

A lot of common fish arent on the import list, but they are still traded

For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

hmmmm but clown loaches aren't breed in captivity, and kuhlis are quite hard to breed, so do the 'pockets of breeders around the country' breed clowns and kuhlis i still don't understand why kuhlis and clowns are so cheap compared to yoyos:%)

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you whacked it on the head.

we HAVE to breed anything otherv than kuhlis and clowns because we cannot import them.

we can import youing wild caught clowns and kuhlis, but with chains and yoyos and the like, they have to be bred, and usually by hobbyists, so they production level is quite small, hence the $$.

For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

yea...and the question is why can clown loach be imported but the yoyo's can't.

As an Australian myself, I must say it is much less choices in Australian aquartic markets....the prices are high and there are much less varieties of species avaliable. Even fish food varieties is considerably less than other countries.

The problem in Australia is mainly due to our small population. Just my 3c.

You also have to bear in mind that the Australian government takes a fairly hard line (to put it mildly ion some cases) with respect to the possibility of alien introductions getting loose and wiping out the native species. The Lake Eacham Rainbowfish, Melanotaenia eachamensis, is a case in point - an Australian native (and a lovely one at that) that became extinct from Lake Eacham. Fortunately, other populations have now turned up, but we aquarists were faced with the very real possibility that the species only existed in captivity.

On the plus side, the aquarists who had bred this fish provided conservationists with stock for a restocking programme, so the news isn't all bad. But you have to bear in mind that for every good news story about aquarists helping conservationists in places like Australia, there are dozens of horror stories revolving around alien imports that were released and went on the rampage

Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002

case 1. For starters i dont think yoyo's, zebra's, clowns and kuhlis for that matter could bare colder waters anyways so if the case is that some stupid fish keepers released them into the wild (and why would they want too) they wouldnt survive long! true or false

point 2. Why have clowns and not yoyos? good question they come from the same region??? same habits different color both botias??? just one grows a little bigger than the other

point 3. Its not like south east asia is that far away from australia you import them to the US???

I just believe that they probably believe that if they do get released into the australian eco system yoyo's have a better chance of survival than that of the clown. Am i right in saying that?

any Yoyo loach or zebra loach breeders out there if you hear this can you please elaborate ?? if they exist that is?

[span class="edited"][Edited by wilsta 2004-07-26 08:43][/span]