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I agree that it goes bad more quickly than other veggies, so use just a little, and don't leave it in too long. Blanching or a short zap in the microwave (let it cool off!) is probably better than serving raw or cooked. Also, wash it (and all veggies) thoroughly, as even trace amounts of pesticides or herbicides can be harmful (yes, organic is preferred, and if you grow your own, even better!).

I have only used small pieces when it is in the mixed frozen vegs I cook in the MW.

There is never any left and certainly no problems using it at all.

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Organic is surely a finer way of feasting...

To protect trops from the onslaught of pesticides and insecticides, if one is to demand the purest, the flake food should be "organic" also.

Although I personally could not live happily on a diet of vegetables and organics, I must comment on the strongest of animals whose diet solely consists of plant origins, like the elephant and the common horse and of course our close and powerful cousins, the gorillas.

If early man/woman were dependent on meat to survive, they must have been tremendous athletes to chase down and capture dinner.

Somehow I have the feeling early humans were eating organic veges and fruits long before they discovered lightening started fires.

--garyroland.

I'm with moondog on this one! Organic fruit and veggies all the way! I would only feed my fish on food I would be prepared to eat myself (ok maybe not flakes )

PS. thanks for the reassurance mike77ca
*goes back to eating cabbage*

Last edited by whetu at 29-Nov-2004 15:40

as i said earlier gary, all the more reason to feed (and eat) organic veggies, which disallow the use of pesticides.

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Any hobbyist who feeds vegetables to their fish should be running fresh activated carbon to remove pesticides and insecticides from their water...

There's just no such thing as washing veges to remove pesticides that are within the veges themselves.

An accumulation of these chemicals build up in fish and tank water causing strange cases of sick and dying trops. I've been called to diagnose sick tanks where the hobbyist was feeding, in addition to other foods, green vegetables.

Those who believe our produce is safe for tropical fish and continue to feed veges may be surprised at the sudden and continuous fish deaths that occur over time, much of it from "wasting".

One would wonder if cancer in humans, all kinds, could be mainly caused from the ingestion of pesticides and insecticides in our food chain.

Although not connected to veges, the fish in Lake Ontario cannot be eaten due to mercury poisoning. I've seen the cancerous skin tumors many of these fish are loaded with.

--garyroland.

a bit of topic, but that poison in the cabbage cut is a bit of an old wives tale. The discoloration is just an oxidization reaction between air and some of the chemicals in the cabbage. Its the same reasson apples brown so quickly when you peel them

Actually some people say it is dangerous

Apparently if you cut an edge of a cabbage you're meant to eat is ASAP before the toxins accumulate on the cut edge. And you're not meant to eat stuff like coleslaw that's been prepared hours in advance. But who ever heard of someone dying from coleslaw? So I don't know how credible it is.

Also I think cooked and pickled cabbage are ok so stick with the saurkraut - you can have my share too!

The toxin stuff isn't danergous to humans, is it? Because, well, I can't really see myself living through life without sauerkraut.

I feed my fish brocolli (organic of course!) and they have no problem. I have heard of a factor with brocolli (and all brassicas - cabbage, cauliflower, etc). That is the leaves when damaged produce some kind of toxin to repel insects, and this toxin can be bad for fish in large enough amounts.

So the idea is don't feed your fish on the leaves of these plants (and of course cabbage is all leaf) but the flower head (the bit we normally eat) is just fine.

imo the safest way to get 'organic' veggies is to grow it yourself - at least then you know what's going on them. pests will attack the veggies whether they're organic or not, so the farmer needs a way to limit pest damage. in know in the fruit industry they use modified viruses to limit codling moth damage (apples, pears, crabapple, quince) and i'm sure they use similar things for other fruits and veggies - i dont' think i'd want to be feeding my fish viruses...

i feed broccoli sometimes and the main eater of it is my apple snail, who will eat everything but the stalk. so far i haven't noticed that it was bad for any of the fish. i can't see it being worse than, say zuchini

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The person at my lfs said broccoli is bad for fish b/c it's just a bunch of buds, not leaves. I believe he said this makes it difficult for the fish to digest.

Has anyone heard that before? Does it sound like it has any merit?

If you mean steamed that would probably be fine. Something like boiling might make it a bit too soft. I use frozen...I just thaw it in some water then attach it to a rock.

As far as polluting the tank, veggies are part of plants, and many of us have planted tanks not only because they look good but because they're beneficial to our fish. Those of us that feed veggies remove what's left well before it becomes a problem; often times bits of plants are floating around the tank long before we notice and remove them. Not a big difference between the two IMO


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I've never heard any thing close to that. WOuld cooked brocoli be safe to feed to fish if it had no seasoning

Flowers are a collection of modified leaves, so I guess in essence we're both right.

Broccoli does seem to go rancid pretty fast. Also, I thought the broccoli buds were actually flowers?

even more reason to buy organic veggies gary

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Last time I checked, the brocolli "buds" are just modified leaves. If fish can eat the green leaves of lettuce, it should definitely be able to handle the similarly built brocolli.

A wonderful way to pollute your tank is to feed vegetables...

Since commercial veges are pesticide/fertilizer grown, I would avoid the temptation to feed trops with them.

--garyroland.