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No worries Delenn, meanwhile your algae growed to humongonus proportions ...on your fake plants

That's a new word...humongonus...

The Amazon Nut...

Ah, you saw the pictures in the Photo Booth section? Yeah, I am trying to understand where it's coming from. At least I know that SOMETHING can live in my tank, lol. Even if it's not fish right now. I WANT FISH!!!!!!!! ahem. Sorry. Just a wee bit frustrated.

I found out last night over thanksgiving supper #2 that a guest and her hubby have not had their fishtanks active for sometime. I gain a 25g tank, misc fishy stuff, and python syphon system probably by next weekend, in return I'll tune up their 2 computers.

I love freebies.. I guess setting up my mom with my 20 gal low profile tank generated some freebie karma






The Amazon Nut...

Yup our hobby can be frustrating sometimes, patience and perseverence will win out in the end. I still... tell myself that lol.

The Amazon Nut...

good score on the freebie 25G. Gott love free stuff.

Is the tank you're setting up for the (possible) discus & angels an already tank, or one you'll be setting up from scratch. You probably say that earlier on, but I've forgotten by now. Only asking 'cause I'm wondering what colour you have planned for the back glass, or if it is already painted?

Cheers
TW

Hi Robyn

I picked up their laptop this morning (took 2 days off) to fix up, and now have the python. The drain pipe y-shaped part is not there for siphoning or the inside thread faucet adapter, but I can hook it to the laundry tub in the meantime since it has the connector to goto the outside tap threads, to at least be able to fill the tank. If I have to buy those 2 parts separately I'm ok with that, i could probably just drain it into the bathtub using the hose as a straight syphon. Also a gravel cleaner came attached.

He couldn't find the 25g but I'm sure his wife will on wed when I bring their laptop back. All I have to do is re-install an ms office cab file under her user profile to fix the problem. I can grab that off my disc

"Is the tank you're setting up for the (possible) discus & angels an already tank, or one you'll be setting up from scratch. I'm wondering what colour you have planned for the back glass, or if it is already painted?"

The new setup is from scratch. I've never painted a tank, thinking of going with my usual black construction paper backing, dull side in.

I'll check in later

The Amazon Nut...

That's awesome DaMossman! There's nothing like getting a free tank! Did you say what you're going to put in it? It's only 25 gallons, so I'm assuming that you can't put Discus in it? Maybe I'm wrong.

One thing I don't do is count tanks before they're in

I'm not sure what's happening tank wise yet, here's what I have. Mind you, I'm supposed to downsize tanks as my apt is tiny, fuses can blow down here, and if I move I'll have alot to do lol.

Established tanks.
10g moss, algae, otos, shrimp, colony-bred wild endlers.
40g breeder - 'SouthAmeriKazian' - mix of crypts, ruben and ozelot red swords, e augustifolius, thread-leaf vals, downoi, 5 Laetacara dorsigeras, 2 beckfords pencilfish, 1 bn pleco.

Next tank to be set up, supposed to be replacing the 40g - 75g tank and cherrywood stand. Eheim classic, driftwood. Still need substrate, want ada aquasoil amazonia. Still debating what fish, either angels as the dominant fish, or turquoise discus. I somehow think I won't mix the two, although I'd love to.

What's left.
2x15 gal
incoming 25 gal.

I'm tempted to build a tank rack to hold spare stuff but at the same time trying to fight the urge, I don't think the fuses can take it and I may just go mental lol.


The Amazon Nut...

I took 2 days off and they've been productive. Got alot of car stuff done.

I feel bad about the vacations and weekends away this year and no-one to feed the fish when I'm gone. Today I went to the fishstore and bought them the eheim automatic feeding unit 3581.

Edit: Water change done, why didn't I get a python before ?
Not one bucket lugged, have to say I love that

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The new setup is from scratch. I've never painted a tank, thinking of going with my usual black construction paper backing, dull side in

That might be best. I love black backgrounds best. But discus are the only fish I know of who don't look well against a black background. Pigeonblood discus will likely pepper up. Non pigeogn bloods look darker & duller. Only albinos look their best against black. A lot of discus keepers choose a very light blue. I've painted my quarantine tanks that colour & can say first hand my discus look better against the colour of the QT tank, than they do when I move them into the big tanks inside.

BTW, unless you don't mind peppering, it might be best to avoid pigeon blood altogether, as they also tend to pepper more in planted tanks). I think you want turks though - so they don't pepper at all.

If you are like me, you won't believe this when you first hear it. Go to a discus forum & search for threads about tank background colours. I didn't believe, and I'm stuck with a 7ft, 4ft & 3ft tank, all with black painted backs, that are now too hard to think about changing. At least with black construction paper you have a chance to change it, if you don't like it later.

It's only 25 gallons, so I'm assuming that you can't put Discus in it? Maybe I'm wrong.

You're right. Only a confirmed discus breeding pair. But you could use it to QT new discus.

I hope you do end up with the 25G, as that would be sweet. Python for free was good too

I used ADA amazonia for the planted sections in my 7ft tank (silica sand in the unplanted).

I've always been told healthy adult fish can go a week without feeding, when you're on holiday. Longer & you need to make arrangements. The eheim auto feeders are good though. I have a couple too, but never used them. I've lent them to a friend a couple of times & he says he never had any problem with them.

What made you decide not to mix the angel or discus? Is it the disease myth? Most things I read do say it is just a myth, but people keep spreading it. Having said that, I should say I've never kept Angels, so can't speak from personal experience.

Cheers
TW

Hi Robyn

I love black backgrounds also, makes the fish feel safe and lends itself nicely for photos.

I'm not a peppering fan, I like clean, well-defined markings, consistent color with no fading in the middle. Yup, turks if I get em.

So if you wanted your tanks black you'd have to razor blade all the blue paint off ? My god, leave em black unless you have vacation time coming!

Yup the 25 would be a qt, put into storage, replace the 10 on my bedroom dresser, or as Robyn said become a breeding pair tank later for some type of fish.

"I hope you do end up with the 25G, as that would be sweet. Python for free was good too" - Just trying the python for the first time today, it's a welcome change. To think I've been lugging thousands of buckets over the years... I needed that python when I had the 90g oscar tank.

I've done alot of research on the ADA amazonia (type 1),
definately want 4x 9L bags of it (lol)

I normally feed them once per day, which wasn't an issue before but this year I've been home mon, tues, thurs. I want to build up their health and growth properly. I lost a gb ram breeding pair and one L dorsigera this year, with no prior illness, or signs of illness, following week long absenses. Then whenever I'm gone I feel guilty. Enter the eheim.

"What made you decide not to mix the angel or discus?"
I'm not firm on it yet since I know angels can be quite the bullies, and discus are very sensitive. I'm not concerned with the disease myth tho. If I buy local bred, qt using the L & P meds you mentioned, I'll be good.

I encourage you to raise a small group of angels Robyn, you'd enjoy it for sure

The Amazon Nut...

I love black backgrounds also, makes the fish feel safe and lends itself nicely for photos.

I'm not a peppering fan, I like clean, well-defined markings, consistent color with no fading in the middle. Yup, turks if I get em.

Discus try to blend in with their surroundings, so a darker tank means a darker discus (unless they are albino & then they can't darken).
Turks will darken. No problem, so long as you know a discus you choose in a breeder's light coloured tank may look different in your tank.

So if you wanted your tanks black you'd have to razor blade all the blue paint off ? My god, leave em black unless you have vacation time coming!

I regret using a black background on a discus tank - even though for other fish it would be my first choice .... I get tired even thinking about changing it LOL

To think I've been lugging thousands of buckets over the years...

I gave up lugging buckets when I got the 43G. I could never go back to buckets.

Take care & have fun

Cheers
TW

I got the 25g from the friends that gave me a python. It was nicer then expected, thick glass, nice top, would make a sweet show tank. I think it will be replacing my 10g. I fixed their MS office and will be upgrading their vid card for free

Also getting more organized, got rid of the yucky antique stereo cabinet (prior landlord owned it) that my 40g was sitting on, replaced with a 4ft, 2 teir tank stand. My smaller empty spares now on the bottom tier so I'm not tripping over them.

Unexpected event, the person I bought the stand from gave me 2 adult albino bn's (one longfin), a goldspot bn, and approx 25 fry. They are all acclimated and doing on for a week.

I located a local breeder with silver angel fry (with red eyes) for $2. each so I'm considering 6 of them.

No progress on the 75g yet, trying to locate amazonia, no suppliers in canada, trying to find out what fish stores in Buffalow NY carry it for a poss field trip.. No luck yet.

Still to decide on what stock for the 75, have to be careful. if I grow all the bn fry and keep a couple pairs and they breed, my L dorsigs decide to breed etc, won't take much to run out of tank space.

Nitrate levels were good in both tanks, checking ammonia in the 10g tank tonight to make sure adding all those bn's didn't cause a mini-cycle. So far they are doing great.

Also salvages a few of my various moss samples, will be making some kind of glass container to keep them all, or go for bottles/glasses. Might add airline/light to bump things up.

The Amazon Nut...

How's the tanks comin' along DaMossMan? I wanta see 'em!

TTFN --->Ta-Ta-For-Now
Kelly ;o}

Hi Kelly

I'm so sorry for the late response.

The 75 gal tank I now have the substrate. I went with a Japanese ada amazonia clone of sorts called Nisso. 48 kg of it, hope it's enough. Also some azoo slow-release fert pellets. Light and heater still to go. I'm told with the amount and type of light I'll be needing co2 so will also be needed. With Christmas and just buying the substrate, I'm tapped out so have to wait a bit.

40g - is doing well. 10g had some bn die-off.

Got a new few plants, L aromatica, stargrass, baby tears.

Trying to live up to my name (been awhile). Salvaged my moss samples from the various dishes they were in. Most now in a 4 section betta holder inside the 40g. (java, taiwan, flame, f fontanus). Only the zipper moss is not in a tank. I found a couple strands of weeping moss growing again in the 40g, and a couple of xmas moss in the 10g. I'll have to get those into glass jars (no longer store in plastic) On a tip, bought some Loctite Superglue UltraGel which is used in marine tanks by some people for fragging. Someone in my area used that to glue moss to driftwood, then just popped it into a tank and all was well. I'm sick of tying mosses by hand so will try that next time. I will use gloves and tweezers though, the glue bonds skin instantly. Also going to get plastic mesh from the craft store.

The 75 is there not set up, looking grungy and holding my python, driftwood collection etc.. I should clean this up and take a pic but won't happen for a couple of days.

Also the 10g will be replaced by a 25g







The Amazon Nut...