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CucumberSlices Banned Posts: 63 Registered: 11-Jul-2007 | what types of wood are ok to put into an aquarium and what types are not? |
Posted 13-Jul-2007 17:21 | |
sham Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004 | |
Posted 13-Jul-2007 18:00 | |
CucumberSlices Banned Posts: 63 Registered: 11-Jul-2007 | i have heard that there are a number of woods that will still sink, you just have to get the right one kind. Then agan picking at plecofanatics brains helps alot as well. None-the-less, I now havea list of some useable wood that i can get at the lfs and that will sink on its own without, haveing to soak it for days and makeing it water-loged. And thats what i have been hearing, the lfs is the best bet for any drift wood to put in the aquarium, so i guess next time im in town i'll have to look into getting some. |
Posted 13-Jul-2007 19:00 | |
Calilasseia *Ultimate Fish Guru* Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003 | Mopani Wood is expensive but worth it ... because you can get nicely gnarled and intricately twisted pieces that you can stack together to form tangled root grottoes for fishes such as Synodontis catfishes, Corydoras and Loaches. The bigger pieces can be pressed into service in a similar fashion in larger aquaria for fishes such as the Black Ghost Knife Fish. Expensive, but if you search in the bin for some good shaped pieces, it's well worth the effort and the expense. I have some lovely pieces just waiting to be pressed into service as decorations in my aquaria, but the trouble is that they take a LONG time to dump their tannins during the pre-soak - I have a piece that's been soaking for a year and it's still not properly ready! |
Posted 13-Jul-2007 21:24 | |
keithgh *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 | Just because you get it from an LFS does not mean it will sink it depends totally on the species of the wood. I have a large piece of wood in my 5ft tank I purchased from the LFS and after 3+ years it would still float a litle if I took the rock of of it. It is a species of wood that water does not penetrate very well at all. One thing to remember just because you see a nice piece of wood laying around it will be suitable it could easly contain many contaminates and/or poisons. Another thing make sure it is clean and suitable not from a reptile tank. I have several pieces in my tank I have collected but and a big but these were collected from very tropical waters and had been sun bleached for many years. Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? VOTE NOW VOTE NOW |
Posted 14-Jul-2007 03:28 | |
CucumberSlices Banned Posts: 63 Registered: 11-Jul-2007 | |
Posted 14-Jul-2007 03:40 | |
zookeper Hobbyist Posts: 106 Kudos: 62 Votes: 6 Registered: 19-Apr-2007 | I have Mopani DW and all I did was boil it in a big pot for about 4 hours and then let it soak in cold water for a couple days and it was ready to go. It sank and is not releasing any noticable tannins. A year to soak wood is ridiculous and to time consuming. Try the boiling method. |
Posted 14-Jul-2007 05:16 | |
sham Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004 | I had to collect my wood over several years. The nearby store only gets in wood about 3 times a year and then they only carry maybe 2 large pieces at a time. The rest of their wood and most other places are just tiny pieces(6" or less) stuck to slate. You can order some driftwood online but beyond a certain size you'll end up with extra shipping charges. There are also some people who sell wood on ebay but you sometimes can't be certain where they got the stuff or if it's been properly sterilized. There are a few large sellers on there I might trust because they've made a business out of finding good wood and properly sterilizing it to sell. I bought a big piece of wood attached to slate at the lfs and it wouldn't sink for anything. I buried the slate under 3" of substrate, stacked 5 large rocks on it, and left it that way. 2years later when I took the tank down it still started to lift up off the bottom when I removed the rocks and substrate. Not all wood sinks no matter what you do to it or how long it soaks. It's a risk you sometimes just have to take. I've got a $30 piece I can't use in the tanks because I can't find anyway to get the stuff to sink so I gave it to the degus to climb on and eventually destroy. |
Posted 14-Jul-2007 18:02 | |
CucumberSlices Banned Posts: 63 Registered: 11-Jul-2007 | i see, not all wood can become watter-logged... interesting, i guess thats why some driftwood drifts so well, haha... im not funny. regardless i'll just have to do some hunting then and maybe order online considering there ar about 3 lfs aroud here. |
Posted 15-Jul-2007 01:56 | |
Calilasseia *Ultimate Fish Guru* Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003 | Try the boiling method. I would if I had a saucepan big enough! |
Posted 15-Jul-2007 03:12 | |
CucumberSlices Banned Posts: 63 Registered: 11-Jul-2007 | the wood i have in my aquarium right now i have boiled, and it seems to get the tannis out of the wood at a much faster rate of speed. |
Posted 15-Jul-2007 16:25 | |
oldpro Fingerling Posts: 31 Kudos: 18 Votes: 8 Registered: 27-Nov-2006 | To boil larger peaces of wood, you could use a me Do this until the water looks like nasty tea, then dump the water and do it again until the water is clear, or kind of clear. "I am who I am, and who I am is who I want to be." -Kasey Carter |
Posted 15-Jul-2007 17:15 | |
CucumberSlices Banned Posts: 63 Registered: 11-Jul-2007 | thankyou for the post oldpro,very good idea for the larger peices! |
Posted 15-Jul-2007 20:23 | |
Calilasseia *Ultimate Fish Guru* Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003 | Trouble is all our dustbins have been plastic for, oh, 15 years ... |
Posted 17-Jul-2007 01:13 | |
sham Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004 | I completely forgot about that but it's true. I wouldn't even know where to get a me |
Posted 17-Jul-2007 19:30 | |
longhairedgit Fish Guru Lord of the Beasts Posts: 2502 Kudos: 1778 Votes: 29 Registered: 21-Aug-2005 | Garden centres should still sell rubbish burners, we have em here, b&q 24.99, my mom bought one last month. Basically a dustbin with a lid that has a little chimney in it. |
Posted 20-Jul-2007 12:57 | |
CucumberSlices Banned Posts: 63 Registered: 11-Jul-2007 | we have an old oil drum that is used for burning papers and cardboard and whatnot that causes a lot of ash into the air, so we don't cause a field fire. But big ol' drums like that are thick and and would take a while to heat-up unless you have a nice big fire going under it, which wouldn't be bad. I like fires, as long as they arnt burning down the corn or soy field. |
Posted 20-Jul-2007 13:24 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, I would not use an old burn barrel for soaking driftwood. Between what the barrel originally was used for and then what was partially incinerated after that, I would avoid it at all costs. Some of the byproducts of the process could be toxic to fish and plants. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 20-Jul-2007 14:47 |
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