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Yeah , some idiot has pierced the lips on 3 oscars, and put spiked bars in..

Here are the aforementioned fish. This video, while not gory , or showing the piercing actually being done, will still doubtless distress people who care about animal welfare. Bear witness at your own discretion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSl2rciey5M

What can I say about how stupid this is, how foul, how pathetic, how insensitive, and how utterly repulsive the act, and the person behind this is, except to say that if I ever meet the dude who did this in person I'd definately punch his lights out. Maybe 15 times or so. Then feed his corpse to tiger sharks.

This should be illegal. Without doubt. With a custodial sentence. Minimum 6 months to 2 years. End of.

Got to agree with you there, LHG. It takes a really brilliant individual to want to do this. I have a hard time understanding why human beings pierce their own body parts, yet alone doing this to some helpless animal.

Jim

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there are many reasons why a person peirces their own body, most frequently it is to look cool, but sometimes it's just because they like the pain associated with it. I have peircings myself, but...

I do not understand why anyone would think that peircing a fish is a reasonable thing to do. a labret (lip peircing) hurts alot when done on a human. why would anyone put a pet through that?

not to mention the fact that we know for sure there are alot of bacteria in our fishes water, so a pericing is just wide open to infections...

just one more thing, people do this to cats too. and I have personally slapped faces for that. if I met this guy... well, you get the idea.

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This isn't the first time I've seen this. There was something a while back about a goldie, I think. With a dice earring in it's lip, I think. I'm not sure. I think that guy was a LFS owner, too... I forget.

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That is gross. I think they were trying to go for a fish hook look or something .
The fish appear to be having difficulty feeding and the tank looks to be overstocked as well .
Bad person, bad, bad, bad.....

What a moron!! So sad that there are people out there who have such a disregard for fish.

Well the comments below the video certainly told this guy what a lot of people thought of him.

I cannot help but think to myself that the warped mental process that resulted in this abuse went something like this:

"Hey dude, wouldn't it be really cool if we had, like, goth fish? You know, Oscars with chin spikes so they could take part in Warhammer?" (Say that out loud in Beavis and Butt-Head voice for best effect).

The number of names I am tempted to call this guy are legion. And probably best not listed here on the board otherwise Adam will have a purple fit. Suffice to say that I picture this individual as being the kind of person who would think it perfectly reasonable to take advantage of a passed out girl at a frat party.

A compelling argument for eugenics if ever I encountered one.


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A compelling argument for eugenics if ever I encountered one

Ugh not ever. No reason is good enough for that.
See Aldous Huxley "Brave New World" to find out why.

Yeah its horrible and nasty and the guy or gal should be charged with cruelty to animals.
But hey, people kick cats in the head and blow their eyeballs out. So its really not much different.
Same kind of mentality probably.

As for piercings simply for pain sake? Thats a really weird Western/ North American / European idea.
Traditionally peircings have been done for a plethora of cultural reasons, rarely for the pleasure of pain.
Piercings have been done as a test of maturity, to endure the pain is to become an adult, but not for the pleasure of it. Weird western culture we live in here.
No more comments on that topic.


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think its about time for the ASPCA to start getting more serious about things people do to fish. I mean there is alot worse things that can be done (like coloring for one). but they need to start getting after people like this before it goes to far... whats next, some idiot going to put one of them loop rings like they have in their ears in a fishes tail?

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I am completely amazed!

Do they really expect the fish to live like that?? and who knows if they steralized the metal before putting it in to the fish OR the tank.

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I cant believe it myself, and I found the video! Every time I see it , I get more and more irritated.

Seriously , that spike can only injure other fish and get caught on things, and if the oscars (who are a quarrelsome fish ) fight, it could get very bloody. Even while lunging for food an oscar could catch that spike on the gravel or some tank decor, and if the jaw breaks, well, its a fatal injury and the fish will probably starve to death.

I'd gladly spend an evening hammering nails into that guys head. You guys bring the beer and we'll make a weekend out of it.

that is the sickest thing I have ever seen! what is wrong with some people ??

that spike could easy get stuck in anything and could easily injure another oscar. how they can still eat amazes me!

they must think they are so cool to have fish with piercings when really they need some serious help!

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Unbelievable

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Ouch! I dont even think that a fish would give in to a piercing.......Imagine all the blood sheeded when piercing.......That guy should have lost a finger or even a hand.......But to humiliate an honorable and mighty fish, by putting a spike that will crack the glass(Mr. Bonehead LFS owner didnt think of this.....)is just plain wrong! Just think of it how he(or she) thought of it......Hey, if a fish can still survive when it has a hook in its mouth, and is dragged up into the air, why not pierce it? The big ugly brute is larger than most fish I've caught! It cant possibly be hurt..... I dont think an oscar is ugly, and that dude is one sad, sadist, moron to have not have caught larger fish than that, and to think size matters.....

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Hmm.

While it only seems to be an irritant to the fish itself, geez that could cause some damage! Its like all of a sudden growing talons or a giant rhino horn somewhere, no way would you be aware enough of how to avoid causing damage with it.

Plus how would you actually carry out the procedure? Oscars aren't really weak fish by any means, you'd need to hold it steady, get your fingers in its mouth, get the spike through, secure it, and then watch so see if it healed. You couldn't do that with the fish in the water, or without some sort of restraint. Do you think they anaesthetised them or just sat on them?

I suppose in some ways it is similar to tagging sportfish/endangered fish/threatened fish etc. but that is done in a way that would cause the least amount of problems with day to day life in the wild.

That, I don't know what the point of that is, it doesn't even look any good!

For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

Like I said above Callatya, it's the Beavis & Butt-head mentality writ large. It's the sort of thing they'd do to a fish. You really know you are dealing with a serious case of mental atrophy when you meet someone whose aim in life is to be a second rate copy of two moronic cartoon characters that were invented to satirise stupidity.


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So hard to understand what these people are thinking when they do these cruel things. Why do they do it - I can't imagine a fish with piecings to be in any way attractive. In humans, it is easy to get our piecings caught on things but we chose to have them & are aware of them. When we play sport, the rules often require we remove our earings for safety reasons. How could the poor fish be aware when swimming through a rocky crevice to make sure his stylish stud doesn't get caught on a jutting edge.

My work IT system prevented the downloading of the clip, so I didn't see it. I can only imagine the worst though.

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i live in az and theres a lady who saves unwanted fish. she posted on craigslist sayin if you have unwanted fish call her and she'll come get them. some jerk posted saying that "there's only 2 things you can do with unwanted fish. 1. flush them, 2. put them in the river. come on people their fish not humans." its people like that that make me sick to say we're from the same species. as if sticking bettas in 8oz bowls, overstocking to the point of death... all the other ignorant things people do, now theres dyeing, dipping and PIERCING. poeple need to pull their heads out of their butts and look around. fish are animals and doing those things are animal cruelty. ahhhhhh. ok sorry rant over

ahhhh can you beleave this guy. what a jerk. this is the guy that did the same thing to his goldfish and this is a link to an interview he did and why he thinks its ok.
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