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i also forgot to mention i have bought some new fish as well , 10 more cardinals for the annubias tank, that totals 20 , how many do you think i should have? and another 20 http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/profile.aspx?id=334 and one orange spot bristlenose but i havent seen him since i put him in the tank with the blue green algae so he maybe dead

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Dan,

Maybe it is time for some photo updates on the tanks .

I love Dwarf Neon Rainbows, 20 of them must be very nice. What is your female / male ratio?

Ingo

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LF,

I know have a total of 9 Dwarf Rainbows in my 40G long. 6M 3F. Some of my males were getting a little on edge with eachother and one seemed to not hang with the rest(runt). Last night i brought home 3 females to see if I could even things out with an odd number plus the females might take the males minds off of eachother...

55G Planted tank thread
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ok here are a few pics, i am still unsure as to how to plant the top two tanks, also i havent been able to get more substrate from my uncles house yet.
so any comments on plant styles would be good.

ok tank 1, top lhs

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here is a close up of my sailfin pleco , also the male to female ratio of the dnr are 12 m to 10 f by my count

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tank 2 , top rhs

i just put the rock in there today, its about1 1/2 ft by 1 1/2 ft by 1 ft and has little holes and passages through it. i also drilled a few 25mm holes in it with a masonry drill and the clown loaches love to sleep half in half out.

i really want to get rid of the foam background because my bristle nose are eating it, and it looks crap. i will probably get one of the backgrounds from these guys http://www.universalrocks.com.au/aquarium.htm

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tank 3 , bottom lhs.

this tank wont change , i have it just the way i pictured it , maybe another 15 or 20 cardinals what do you think?

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tank 4 ,bottom rhs.


this is the tank that had the bad case of bga , i put a towel over the front of the tank for two weeks to cut down light and got rid of the algae . one day this week i am going to put co2 on the tank to help stop the algea coming back and to give my crypts a boost.

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here is the algae that was on the leaves

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so comments , suggestions, all are welcome,

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Dan,

Thanks for the updates

Here are some comments:

Overall - may I say Background for the first tank ?

The Rainbow tank is very very nice . I like your driftwood very much and it allows you to plant many different species that all would fit in. I think one limiting factor for the plant options could be you sandy substrate. But how about loads of fern, moss, and Anubias on the wood itself?
Your male / female ratio seems pretty equally balanced. I am curious to hear from you if you will observe the development of one dominant male who then will claim all the females, or what else might happen.

Your link in the Clown Loach tank post links to rocks. You want to create a rock background? Anyway, I agree that the existing one is not all that great . How eavy was that giant rock that you added? Try to get a closeup of a sleeper in it . Do they sleep head in or out?

Tank 3 looks very nice. I can't see it - is there a bottom crew in there? If not, how about a bunch of Cories? And yes, I am in favor of a large school (oh what a surprise) .

Tank 4 is the most serene and my favorite. Again, maybe a white background would help. Are you making progress on the algae war or is it coming back as fast as you remove it? The closeup of the crypt shows a very happy algae as you can see by all the bubbles it produces. How did you get it off in the end?

That's it for now, again - thanks for the update,

Ingo

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hi ingo,
less than 5 mins after reading your post i went outside and saw two of the younger males sparring , fiesty little buggers .i was also thinking of annubias on the drift wood and more wood.
the rock weighs about 20 - 25 kg a bit tricky standing on a ladder to get in the tank but it looks good, the cl always sleep head in and my bn pair has already claimed one of the drilled holes.
i was thinking of a school of 30 pygmy cories for tank 3 when i am more financial.
i want to make a diy background for t4 but i need some scraps of ducting from work, waiting watching, i have a link somewhere i will find it for you.
i used a gravel cleaner hose to get what i could of the bga and then just cut down lights for 2 weeks and put a small powerhead in to increase circulation.
if you scroll down the page in the link you come to their backgrounds, i have seen the aqua - 018 and it is exceptional, they are made of some sort of rubber and can be squashed and bent , very easy to get in the tank, if you can imagine the 018 is 4 foot long and the cave sections are pretty big.

any way time to back to work, up on the roof in the sun


thanks for the interest dan

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dan76,

Must be a lot of fun running that many set ups at once. Things are looking pretty good and I am having fun watching your tanks change.

Sun whats that? Here is nothing but snow and clouds...Welcome to MI, USA

55G Planted tank thread
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wings , my work phone has a thermometer on it , while i putting wires through the roof i left it sitting in the sun on the tin roof sheets and the temp went up to 69 degrees, but in the shade it was only 36 degrees.
3 1/2 hrs of roof work and now im ready for a few beers and playing under the sprinkler with my daughter.




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didnt say that from 7:30 to 12:00 i had nice easy jobs and got stuck in the sun in the middle of the day, good planning dan.


here is the link for the diy background ,http://www.duboisi.com/diy/BNdiygrotto/bndiygrotto.htm

should look really good with the substrate glued to it

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took a few photos in a rush this morning before work to try and get a pic of a cl in the rock

1st one, i love my rock

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couldnt have taken a better pic of my ute and the neighbours yard if i had been facing them

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if you look very closely you can just see a tail of a 4 in cl

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two cl sleeping

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Dan,

Nice sleepers. I wonder if they actually sleep in there or if they just rest. Was that shot taken during the day? If so, what are these guys doing? Aren't they supposed to zoom through the tank during the day .



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ingo ,
about 5 15 am, and i think that they had been sleeping ,there was no movement from them at all. all 6 cl in the tank were out later in the day.

also today i saw the orange spot bn in tank 4 for the fist time, after 5 weeks id given up hope
so far no sign of bga coming back at all

cheers dan

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sorry forgot to say that from the way the rock is positioned there would be a slight current coming out of the hole that the fish are sleeping in

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a slight current coming out of the hole

Does that mean that you have the hole open on the other side and a powerhead is blowing water into it?

Or how do you do that?

Ingo

Anything else going on with the tanks? How are the plants doing?

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there are small holes and crevices throughout the rock and the other side is under the overflow of the hob filter,
plants are doing fine one annubias has 3 flowers, have been doing a bit of overtime lately to get some money for more plants and wood and backgrounds and fish

thinking of experimenting with a soil substrate coved with sand to see what happens and of making a 4 ft sump for my 8 ft tank (but thats another thread)

also my brother in law has some interesting little fish in the holding tanks at the local water treatment plant
http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/threads/27083.1.htm?6#

and i think ill set up a 3ft with water from there so i can go catch some.

thinking of co2 to help the crypts in tank 4 grow quicker , think its worth it?

the electric yellows are starting to move the substrate around(one of my pet hates) so i think they will go back to the lfs and i will get some small schooling fish , any suggestions?



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thinking of co2 to help the crypts in tank 4 grow quicker , think its worth it?

Personally - Nah. Except if you have the money and don't know what else to do with it.

About the yellows, aren't they African Lake fish? And doesn't that mean that your ph is pretty high? Which one of the tanks are they in anyway (you have so many that I always get confused)?

Ingo

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tank 4 the one that had the bga, but they always stay behind the wood. as for ph

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hey,

Just for the fun of it, why don't you measure your ph?

Or do you know it and don't want to share it with us?

Ingo

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its 7.8 ingo ,


tell me what this means

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IMHO,

It means that the ph is just fine for the Electric Yellow .

As all fish from the two African Lakes (Malawi and Tangania) prefer higher ph than neutral. Malawi fish seem to tolerate lower levels than the Tanganians, but still above 7 or even 7.5. Yellows are from the Malawi lake.

Ingo

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ok time for a much needed update, first off tank 1 lots more wood in there now, lovely tea coloured water. today i put 4 3cm bristlenose and 5 5cm SAE in the tank to help nip algae in the bud

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Dan,

You should make a stock list for all your tanks! What is in the tank from the picture? I like the drift wood. Is it stuff that you found in the bush?

55G Planted tank thread
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tank 2 a few more rocks, some more algae , and looking at this pic i definately have to do something about the back ground

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tank 3 going great, today i put 4 3cm bristlenose and 3 5cm SAE and 15 3cm bronze cories in there. still my favorite tank by far. just goes to show , spend a few extra dollars and do the tank exactly right the first time and you wont have to touch it again. i am a big fan of small bioloads so well have to see if the new fish upset the balance or not

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tank 4 a few new bristlenose and one new SAE , everthing going well except i had a dead electric yellow last week , cant find a particular reason

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here is a pic of the background i am making for tank 4 its a bit blurry but you can giet the idea , actually all my pics in this update are pretty crap but they will do

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now another pic with the silicone and substrate covering the back ground

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Nice glasses there, Dan. Are they safety goggles or your regular shades

Well, seems you have your work cut out ther for you (literally). Hey what are you going to do with your batallion of BNs once they all grow up?

Ingo

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By the looks of things he is hopping they will breed in his caves and then he can make millions of dollers selling the babys to LFS's.

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ingo the glasses are both,in the town where i live about 80% of the people work in heavy industry so if you arent wearing orange and PPE you dont fit in.

yep the BN will hopefully get it on and i can give some to the lfs , my last batch of eggs hatched and were going fine until we got a very hot day and killed them all.

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here are a few pics of the new background going into tank 4

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t4

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there you go , nine on topic posts and no post count increase, in my opinion this new policy will drive people awayn from FP or at least stop them posting.

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funny how my rant was countyed and im too drunk too spell properly

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now my wife is picking on me for not being coherent, so here is another pic

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t4

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Have you been drinking while doing this job?

That would make it even more amazing than it already is. How did you manage to wiggle this huge thing into the tank when there is the cross bar on top? That must have been a really tight fit .

In any way, I think it looks nice. Do you have a vision of blending it in more with the scape, like adding moss to the wall or something?

And what was that electric yellow trying to do during the setup - suicide by air breathing? Where was the school of fishies during that time?

Nice job, you sure know how to do it

Ingo

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I was wondering what was going on with the fish too! It looks pretty nice in your tank and it seems your fish alreay dig it! I like the idea of addint moss to it but I am not sure how one would go about such a thing unless doing it before adding it to the tank. Maybe you can crame some chunks of moss and fern in the cracks? Just an idea. Oh and it looks much much better with the black back.

55G Planted tank thread
19G Container Pond
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oh the morning after the night before
here is a pic of the background this morning, the pic came out a bit dark , i tried to get a nice shot of the sunlight,

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the electric yellow that beached himself is doing fine,as are all the other fish, i could say that i measured the new background perfectly to ensure a snug fit, but the only measurement i took was for length. also i am a bit surprised by the difference in colour from the substrate as they are the same sand gravel mix.

eventually plants will cover most of the front, im a bit disapointed in how much the grey stands out , i may take it out and paint it one day

wings which black back were you talking about?

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Six post up not counting this one it looks like the insides are black but I guess they are not.

55G Planted tank thread
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