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platy boy Banned Posts: 131 Kudos: 74 Votes: 30 Registered: 23-Mar-2007 | i have a 3 us gallon bowl with rocks no cover no filter no heater not even a tempeture gauge what can i put in it? i had a common goldfish in there when we got rid of him he was 6! any way what could i put in there? one of the other questions i had is can i put a weather loach in there they are also called dojo or pond loachs thanks 33 gallon 7 neon tetras-5 platys-3 bleeding heart tetras-2 corys-1 rainbow shark-2 L83 gibby plecos |
Posted 27-Apr-2007 15:00 | |
BlackNeonFerret Enthusiast Posts: 281 Kudos: 137 Votes: 30 Registered: 18-Jan-2006 | 3 US gallon is a very small tank and as there's no heater you can't keep tropical fish in it really. I don't know about cold water as i've never kept them myself but goldfish are really messy and need a filter. And a really big tank. IMO i don't really think you can keep fish in there. Sorry. |
Posted 27-Apr-2007 17:27 | |
platy boy Banned Posts: 131 Kudos: 74 Votes: 30 Registered: 23-Mar-2007 | a betta? 33 gallon 7 neon tetras-5 platys-3 bleeding heart tetras-2 corys-1 rainbow shark-2 L83 gibby plecos |
Posted 27-Apr-2007 22:22 | |
Budzilla Enthusiast Posts: 288 Kudos: 197 Votes: 90 Registered: 18-Jul-2006 | You can keep a betta in there if you add some plants. Or maybe some shrimp instead. You definantly CAN'T add a dojo loach they grow to 9 inches and are some of the most hyperactive fish I have ever had. Mine will literally swim laps in my 55 gallon in seconds. Especially if there is a storm, hence weather loach. -Vincent |
Posted 27-Apr-2007 22:52 | |
So_Very_Sneaky Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3238 Kudos: 2272 Votes: 201 Registered: 10-Mar-2004 | A male or female betta (siamese fighting fish), or a single apple snail, or a group of small shrimp in a small nano planted tank, or a single nice male guppy (if your house is warmer than 74F), thats about all I can think of. You would be much better of to get a 10 or 20 gallon tank. Weather loaches grow to be a foot long (12 inches) and need at least 55 gallons of space. They are also super social and should be kept in at least a group of 3. Come Play Yahtzee With Me! http://games.atari.com Http://www.myleague.com/yahtgames |
Posted 27-Apr-2007 23:03 | |
platy boy Banned Posts: 131 Kudos: 74 Votes: 30 Registered: 23-Mar-2007 | my thoughts are java moss in the middle for a plant then a trio of shrimp but what type? 33 gallon 7 neon tetras-5 platys-3 bleeding heart tetras-2 corys-1 rainbow shark-2 L83 gibby plecos |
Posted 28-Apr-2007 06:01 | |
GobyFan2007 Fish Addict Posts: 615 Kudos: 363 Votes: 65 Registered: 03-Feb-2007 | Whichever suits your taste and price. Heres a list of shrimp! These are made to eat algae, so id say get the smaller ones and buy the H2O stable wafers. Plant Hairgrass and small carpeting plants, along with smaller sized plants such as Anubias Nana petite. Use a laterite/fine gravel substrate with root tabs. Add a small whisper HOB filter, and a PC/Desk light with screw-in flourescents for the lighting. All this is easy to buy and is affordable. I reccomend you do it. I am starting one up myself! ><> ~=!Vote Today!=~ <>< -----> View My Dragons <----- |
Posted 28-Apr-2007 06:43 | |
platy boy Banned Posts: 131 Kudos: 74 Votes: 30 Registered: 23-Mar-2007 | for the ones who dont have an idea what this bowl looks like here its is http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t83/zzz099/camaranew4.jpg cleaning it and the rocks now 33 gallon 7 neon tetras-5 platys-3 bleeding heart tetras-2 corys-1 rainbow shark-2 L83 gibby plecos |
Posted 28-Apr-2007 22:55 | |
platy boy Banned Posts: 131 Kudos: 74 Votes: 30 Registered: 23-Mar-2007 | everythings done now its clean filled with water and i have a 15 watt bulb over it for more light 15 watts for a 3 gallon is alot of wpg's!heres the pic http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t83/zzz099/camaranew4001.jpg 33 gallon 7 neon tetras-5 platys-3 bleeding heart tetras-2 corys-1 rainbow shark-2 L83 gibby plecos |
Posted 28-Apr-2007 23:50 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, You need to replace that incandescent bulb. It's "K rating" is around 2000K and is for reading or seeing where you are going so you don't trip over something. It's no good for plants and the heat that it puts out will heat the bowl. You can try a screw in flourscent bulb, or switch over to a high intensity bulb. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 29-Apr-2007 01:20 | |
Babelfish Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 | Keep in mind that the WPG rule is not true with incandescent bulbs. As frank said, switch the bulb. Without a heater in the tank the temperature will swing drastically between day and night. ^_^ |
Posted 29-Apr-2007 01:39 | |
GobyFan2007 Fish Addict Posts: 615 Kudos: 363 Votes: 65 Registered: 03-Feb-2007 | Even with a flourescent screw-in bulb, someone said that the wpg rule fails with Nano tanks. Can anyone explain? ><> ~=!Vote Today!=~ <>< -----> View My Dragons <----- |
Posted 29-Apr-2007 05:29 | |
Babelfish Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 | Since a nano tank is so much smaller the light doesnt have as much water to travel through. There's a school of thought that for tanks taller than 24" the wpg rule varies. Some say yes some say no. A 11 watt compact floro should be fine for anything under 10 gallons. ^_^ |
Posted 29-Apr-2007 09:57 | |
platy boy Banned Posts: 131 Kudos: 74 Votes: 30 Registered: 23-Mar-2007 | ok thanks guys i will post when i get my moss or when i do my water test 33 gallon 7 neon tetras-5 platys-3 bleeding heart tetras-2 corys-1 rainbow shark-2 L83 gibby plecos |
Posted 29-Apr-2007 14:26 | |
shadowtheblacklab Hobbyist Posts: 100 Kudos: 52 Votes: 0 Registered: 31-Mar-2007 | Try a betta and trio of small shrimp with some java fern or moss. Yup. I'm that crazy Twilight/animal/music girl |
Posted 30-Apr-2007 02:22 | |
catdancer Big Fish Mad Scientist Posts: 471 Kudos: 138 Votes: 13 Registered: 15-Apr-2007 | |
Posted 30-Apr-2007 15:00 | |
catdancer Big Fish Mad Scientist Posts: 471 Kudos: 138 Votes: 13 Registered: 15-Apr-2007 | Tanichthys albonubes, the white cloud minnow is a good fish for such a set up as it is extremely hardy, pretty looking, stays very small and can live in cooler waters. |
Posted 30-Apr-2007 15:14 | |
platy boy Banned Posts: 131 Kudos: 74 Votes: 30 Registered: 23-Mar-2007 | catdancer i read they dont do so well in less there in large groups of 10 or 12 but i might think about them if not i took the light away to much work if i dont even need it for java moss! thanks 33 gallon 7 neon tetras-5 platys-3 bleeding heart tetras-2 corys-1 rainbow shark-2 L83 gibby plecos |
Posted 30-Apr-2007 21:03 | |
So_Very_Sneaky Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3238 Kudos: 2272 Votes: 201 Registered: 10-Mar-2004 | White cloud minnows can be kept perfectly fine in a group of 3 minimum. You should still provide java moss with some light. I have found it grows little to none in low light conditions, and even dies off completely. It definitely needs some light. Yes, a betta is a tropical fish, but I would assume most people keep their homes warmer than 74F. I certainly do. Come Play Yahtzee With Me! http://games.atari.com Http://www.myleague.com/yahtgames |
Posted 30-Apr-2007 22:44 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, I hate to be the killjoy, but despite what one sees in in the pictures, one should NEVER fill these things over half full. Despite the stated capacity, the surface area is greatest at the 1/2 full point. The surface area of any container (tall tank, breeder tank, hex tank, or even bowl) is what determines how many fish one could keep in the container, not necessarily the capacity of the container. The surface of the water is where the exchange of gasses (CO2, O2, etc.) takes place and the surface area needs to be as large as possible. You really need to rethink this thing and what you are going to put in it. And, include an air stone. The water stagnates and fouls rapidly and extremely easily. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 30-Apr-2007 23:14 | |
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