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i have a 3 us gallon bowl with rocks no cover no filter no heater not even a tempeture gauge what can i put in it?

i had a common goldfish in there when we got rid of him he was 6! any way what could i put in there? one of the other questions i had is can i put a weather loach in there they are also called dojo or pond loachs

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3 US gallon is a very small tank and as there's no heater you can't keep tropical fish in it really. I don't know about cold water as i've never kept them myself but goldfish are really messy and need a filter. And a really big tank. IMO i don't really think you can keep fish in there. Sorry.
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a betta?

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You can keep a betta in there if you add some plants. Or maybe some shrimp instead. You definantly CAN'T add a dojo loach they grow to 9 inches and are some of the most hyperactive fish I have ever had. Mine will literally swim laps in my 55 gallon in seconds. Especially if there is a storm, hence weather loach.

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A male or female betta (siamese fighting fish),
or a single apple snail, or a group of small shrimp in a small nano planted tank, or a single nice male guppy (if your house is warmer than 74F), thats about all I can think of.
You would be much better of to get a 10 or 20 gallon tank.

Weather loaches grow to be a foot long (12 inches) and need at least 55 gallons of space. They are also super social and should be kept in at least a group of 3.


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my thoughts are java moss in the middle for a plant then a trio of shrimp but what type?


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Whichever suits your taste and price. Heres a list of shrimp!

These are made to eat algae, so id say get the smaller ones and buy the H2O stable wafers. Plant Hairgrass and small carpeting plants, along with smaller sized plants such as Anubias Nana petite. Use a laterite/fine gravel substrate with root tabs. Add a small whisper HOB filter, and a PC/Desk light with screw-in flourescents for the lighting.

All this is easy to buy and is affordable. I reccomend you do it. I am starting one up myself!

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for the ones who dont have an idea what this bowl looks like here its is


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t83/zzz099/camaranew4.jpg

cleaning it and the rocks now

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everythings done now its clean filled with water and i have a 15 watt bulb over it for more light 15 watts for a 3 gallon is alot of wpg's!heres the pic

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t83/zzz099/camaranew4001.jpg

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Hi,
You need to replace that incandescent bulb. It's "K rating"
is around 2000K and is for reading or seeing where you are
going so you don't trip over something. It's no good for
plants and the heat that it puts out will heat the bowl.

You can try a screw in flourscent bulb, or switch over to
a high intensity bulb.

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Keep in mind that the WPG rule is not true with incandescent bulbs.

As frank said, switch the bulb. Without a heater in the tank the temperature will swing drastically between day and night.

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Even with a flourescent screw-in bulb, someone said that the wpg rule fails with Nano tanks. Can anyone explain?

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Since a nano tank is so much smaller the light doesnt have as much water to travel through.

There's a school of thought that for tanks taller than 24" the wpg rule varies. Some say yes some say no.

A 11 watt compact floro should be fine for anything under 10 gallons.

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ok thanks guys i will post when i get my moss or when i do my water test

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Try a betta and trio of small shrimp with some java fern or moss.

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Hi guys:

A betta is a tropical fish and requires at least 75 F. In most locations this asks for a heater!
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Tanichthys albonubes, the white cloud minnow is a good fish for such a set up as it is extremely hardy, pretty looking, stays very small and can live in cooler waters.
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catdancer i read they dont do so well in less there in large groups of 10 or 12 but i might think about them if not

i took the light away to much work if i dont even need it for java moss!

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White cloud minnows can be kept perfectly fine in a group of 3 minimum.
You should still provide java moss with some light.
I have found it grows little to none in low light conditions, and even dies off completely.
It definitely needs some light.

Yes, a betta is a tropical fish, but I would assume most people keep their homes warmer than 74F.
I certainly do.



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Hi,
I hate to be the killjoy, but despite what one sees in
in the pictures, one should NEVER fill these things over
half full. Despite the stated capacity, the surface area
is greatest at the 1/2 full point. The surface area of
any container (tall tank, breeder tank, hex tank, or even
bowl) is what determines how many fish one could keep in
the container, not necessarily the capacity of the
container.

The surface of the water is where the exchange of
gasses (CO2, O2, etc.) takes place and the surface
area needs to be as large as possible.

You really need to rethink this thing and what you are
going to put in it. And, include an air stone. The water
stagnates and fouls rapidly and extremely easily.

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