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lowlight Enthusiast Posts: 166 Kudos: 94 Registered: 03-Apr-2005 | Is charcoal bad for a planted tank? |
Posted 18-Feb-2006 09:54 | |
Bob Wesolowski Mega Fish Posts: 1379 Kudos: 1462 Registered: 14-Oct-2004 | |
Posted 18-Feb-2006 15:49 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, Charcoal, or "activated charcoal" as it is occasionally called, is designed to "absorb" organics such as fish urea, and other chemicals from the water. It is now pretty much a part of the "standard" filter media that accompanies every new aquarium filter. Many simply replace it regularly, and others throw it away and replace the void with a sponge. Most do not use charcoal with planted tanks because it will absorb some of the fertilizers that are added. The thing is, the stuff only works for a week or two depending upon the bio-load of the tank. After that the charcoal is saturated and cannot absorb any more. At that point it simply becomes a "mechanical" filter instead of a "chemical" filter, and "catches" the larger pieces of detritus that is sucked into the filter intake. The charcoals' ability to bind the organics and other chemicals is so good that there are warnings attached to nearly every medication, to remove the charcoal during the treatment period. About the only time one "might" or "should" use charcoal is after treatment for a disease, and if you have fresh driftwood leeching tannins into the tank. The charcoal will bind the medications. Also, the tannins will help clear the yellow/brown color out of the water. Other than those instances, you might as well leave it out of the filter system. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 18-Feb-2006 18:06 | |
lowlight Enthusiast Posts: 166 Kudos: 94 Registered: 03-Apr-2005 | Ok, thanks for the replies. |
Posted 18-Feb-2006 20:24 | |
kent1992 Fingerling Posts: 26 Kudos: 9 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-Feb-2006 | Ok, then what happens if I have a Marineland power filter? As the carbon catridge comes attached to the sponge. |
Posted 20-Feb-2006 05:44 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, First, I am not familiar with that specific filter. Some folks will simply take the filter out, swish it around in some old tank water and replace it continuing to use the same piece over and over again. Others will remove the carbon by cutting open the sponge bag tossing the carbon, and reinsert the sponge. Others will find some sponge, remove the package, and replace it with a piece of sponge cut to fill the void. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 20-Feb-2006 08:52 | |
kent1992 Fingerling Posts: 26 Kudos: 9 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-Feb-2006 | Basically, my sponge encases the carbon, and they are not made to be able to be seperated. So, you said that after 2 weeks, the carbon loses its chemical filtration. Does that mean that it will also stop absorbing fertilizer after 2 weeks? |
Posted 22-Feb-2006 22:41 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, Yes, after a period of time, the charcoal becomes unable to be a chemical filter and is, in essence, just another part of the mechanical filtration (blocks larger particles.) Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 23-Feb-2006 06:31 | |
Bob Wesolowski Mega Fish Posts: 1379 Kudos: 1462 Registered: 14-Oct-2004 | Of course, after a period of time, the charcoal gives up the nasties that adhere to it. Think of the charcoal becoming less "sticky". You are better off doing it yourself as far as sponge and filter material with the fr __________ "To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research." researched from Steven Wright |
Posted 24-Feb-2006 03:16 | |
muddydogs Fingerling Posts: 28 Kudos: 21 Votes: 25 Registered: 15-Dec-2005 | This is very interesting. I to have a filter containing 2 charcol filter pads that have been in the filter for a couple months. So if I read this right they are not doing me any good except for catching particals and could be doing harm if they are leaching nastys back into the tank. So what type of media is recomended? I belive that my Aqua-Tech Wal Mart filter is the same as a Pengiun 330 as I have read that the bio wheel from the Pengiun will fit. The filter I have has 2 charcol blue filter pads and 2 white course bads that are supost to be a bio filter. Thanks |
Posted 24-Feb-2006 06:27 | |
crusha Enthusiast Fish Geek Posts: 262 Kudos: 183 Votes: 102 Registered: 11-Nov-2005 | I'm glad I found this thread. I just bought an Eheim 2217 and read that the Charcoal filter had to be replaced after a couple of weeks. So ... I can just take it out and not replace it? Or replace it with another sponge filter media? |
Posted 24-Feb-2006 16:52 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, Many of us simply throw the charcoal away after the first use, and do not bother to replace it. To fill the space the charcoal took up we use sponge. I have a container of charcoal, unopened, should I ever have to dose the tanks with medication, or if I ever get the urge to put some driftwood in the tank again. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 24-Feb-2006 17:29 | |
Bob Wesolowski Mega Fish Posts: 1379 Kudos: 1462 Registered: 14-Oct-2004 | I have an Eheim Thermofilter as well as an AquaClear. I like both and, of course, never use charcoal. As much as I like the Eheim, I absolutely hate to clean it. The thought of opening it every two weeks to replace a carbon pad gives me a rash. Never use the charcoal pad, I just add an additional fine pad... that I cut myself... from generic pad materials... because I refuse to pay Eheim that much money for a pad! Oh... I never replace the efimech or efisynth, I just rinse it with waste water from the aquarium. You can also be frugal with other filters such as MuddyDogs. Use the old filter's plastic fr __________ "To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research." researched from Steven Wright |
Posted 24-Feb-2006 18:10 | |
Brengun Big Fish Posts: 355 Kudos: 187 Votes: 110 Registered: 22-Jun-2007 | I feel like a right twit now cause I have been diligently replacing the charcoal with fresh stuff every 3 weeks. Just recently I took out the charcoal in one tank to put some Melafix in for a day or two when I added new fish. It is now 2 weeks later and I have done 2 WC in that time and forgot to put in any charcoal in the filter. Now I find out I don't have to anyway. |
Posted 08-Jan-2008 04:45 |
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