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houston![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru You want what when? Posts: 2623 Kudos: 2462 Votes: 337 Registered: 29-Mar-2003 ![]() ![]() | Ok yesterday (Sunday) was the fish auction for the Houston Aquarium Society, and I kind of got overly excited and now have tons of java moss (it really didn't look like that much to begin with, really...not till i got home and found out the last bag, had at least 3 times the amount it looked like-about 4x the amount that you normally buy/ball) and then 2 other batches:%) So that said here is the question: I have some pvc pipe in the tanks for the bottom feeders, and they have grown to like them well enough. I want to take them out and coat them in small gravel, and was then thinking once that is "cured" and ready to go back into the tank, strapping some java moss to each piece (trust me I've got plenty:%)) would the java moss eventually attach itself to the pvc pipe coated in gravel? Or would it just float off once the whatever comes untied (I think one of my corries is good at knots ![]() thanks, hml ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nobody'd swim the Rio Grande I wouldn't be an American If it wasn't for Texas Fort Worth would never cross my mind There'd be no Austin City Limit sign No lone star of any kind If it wasn't for Texas ---George Straight, Texas ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle |
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mattyboombatty![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Tenellus Obsessor Posts: 2790 Kudos: 1507 Votes: 1301 Registered: 26-Mar-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'm sure that the java moss will be able to attach itself to the cured pvc with rocks on it, especially if the gravel is somewhat larger and porous. If not, it will probably still get ahold eventually. Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients |
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keithgh![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Heidi Try to get hold of some fine open mesh. Tie the moss down first then over that tie the open mesh it will be seen for a while until it establishes its self. This will give it an excellent ba Keith ![]() ![]() Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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tankie![]() Fish Addict Posts: 857 Kudos: 848 Votes: 230 Registered: 15-Mar-2005 ![]() ![]() | thats a gud suggestion....keith..that most certainly work. thats how they do with riccia...abling to carpet the entire tank. |
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Babelfish![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | A cheap easy mesh if you cant get to a craft or fabric store is to use the bags that onions come in. As for the PVC...I'd suggest scoring the surface a bit with some rough sand paper so that the silicone can stick better. Once the rocks are in place I suggest filling in the left over bits of space with some sand pressed into the silicone. Java fern and moss will root themselves into rock, just not that securely. ^_^[hr width='40%'] ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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houston![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru You want what when? Posts: 2623 Kudos: 2462 Votes: 337 Registered: 29-Mar-2003 ![]() ![]() | Ok so I need like a fine mesh to wrap around the pvc to help hold down the java moss while it connects itself to the gravel and pvs...would something like hairnetting work? Of course I'd wash/boil/whatever it before using it...for some reason I'm not picturing the mesh/bag onions come in as being very fine, and good to tie over the java moss to grow through ![]() ![]() When I get it finished I'll do pictures, just dont' expect anything too soon, too much going on right now ![]() ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nobody'd swim the Rio Grande I wouldn't be an American If it wasn't for Texas Fort Worth would never cross my mind There'd be no Austin City Limit sign No lone star of any kind If it wasn't for Texas ---George Straight, Texas ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle |
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Babelfish![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'd think hair netting would be even wider of a weave than onion bags ![]() ^_^[hr width='40%'] ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Ashura![]() Small Fry Posts: 7 Kudos: 0 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Jul-2005 ![]() ![]() | As far as I know, Java Moss will eventually attach itself into many things, PVC pipes included, given the right condition. I made several big tanks with external Wet/Dry system, and I had to cover the PVC outlet pipe, I usually just cover the pipe with the moss, tied it up with fishing lines, cover the pipe with fine mesh (I usually use the building net) and within 6 weeks or so I got a pillar of moss ![]() |
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jasonpisani![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 5553 Kudos: 7215 Votes: 1024 Registered: 24-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | Yes, i think it will be Ok with PVC pipes. You can use some fishing line to keep it attached. http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/s8xi5heh/my_photos http://www.geocities.com/s8xi5heh/classic_blue.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/buzaqq/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/corydoras/ Member of the Malta Aquarist Society - 1970. http://www.maltaaquarist.com |
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FRANK![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hi, I suspect that the moss will not attach to the smooth plastic walls of PVC pipe. Here is a link to a site that should answer just about anything you can ask about cultivating any of the mosses: [link=http://www.nature-aquarium.com/home.htm]http://www.nature-aquarium.com/home.htm" style="COLOR: #FF00FF[/link] Once you get over the initial shock, click on "Moss" for answers to your question. One look at this site started my heart thumping! The information is complete, the pictures truly inspiring, and its just plain awesome. Frank ![]() -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
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Babelfish![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I suspect that the moss will not attach to the smooth Well it did attach to the plastic of a soda bottle that I was using as a CO2 diffuser without having prepaired the surface @all. If the PVC were scored as I suggested I have a feeling that it'll make it much easier for it to attach. ^_^[hr width='40%'] The life, the love, You die to heal. The hope that starts, The broken hearts... I’ve got another confession my friend, I’m no fool. I’m getting tired of starting again, Somewhere new." ![]() |
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