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yea, do i have a lac of light or somthing? i have 2 light strips on the tank, a strip for a 29 h, and a strip for a 20 h, thought i had enough

could be a lack of nutrients?

fishyhelper288

A photo certainly would help.

At a guess the pants a lacking some thing or burnt by the lighting.

Question what type of lighting and exactly what type of strip lights are they also how old are the lights?

Are you using any fertilizers at all if so what and what strengths?

What type of substrate and its depth?

Finally what are the water peramiters and and what else is in the tank?

Sorry to ask so many questions but to answer it correctly all this infomation will assure the correct reply is given to help you.

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I doubt it's light. Check this site [link=http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_nutrient.htm]http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_nutrient.htm" style="COLOR: #C000C0[/link]

It's not light.

Sounds like extreme calcium deficiency.Is it on the new parts of the plant ?

What's your GH like ?

If very low could be a problem. There's a number of ways to get it up easily.If your GH is above 3 it's something else.

Knowing tank parameters would help.

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the tank is cycled, and the gh, kh, and ph r all maxed out (in order: 300,300,8.4) no i dont dose ferts, i dont have acess to any, and i wont for a few more weeks, but its on my list of stuff to get, i have 50 bucks for fishy spending, will that be enough? i have 1.5in in the front, and 2.5+ in the back, i have java fern, and some of the leaves have this algae like stuff on it, its white and fluffy looking, i havent brushed it off yet, but i havent vacked out the tank yet today, its the watersprite thats turning white btw, and in the tank i have 1 male betta, 1 female betta, 1 juvinile betta who isnt either yet 3 zebra danios, and 1 cory, and its a 20 gallon, today im adding 5 ottos, and another cory frommy 29 gallon, i have a healthy brown algae population for them in the 20 gallon, i htink thats all the info i can give? is it?

Hi,
With a pH of 8.4 and a Hardness (GH/KH) in the hundreds,
I sure hope those fish turn into African Rift fish!
Those are extreme values for fish that prefer water with a
pH in the low 7s to upper 6s. And, hardness measured in the
0-100(max) range.

Are you sure about your test kit? Many give false readings
as they age. I'd suggest taking some of the water to your
LFS and have them test it. See if you come up with duplicate
readings.

Very few plants will live with hardnesses over 100 and even
fewer in the 300 range. For instance, in the African Rift
area the only place plants grow is near the mouth of the
streams/rivers, where the water is "diluted." Out in the
lakes, the bottoms are stony, and the sides are cliffs of
rock that the fish "stake out" caves and niches in for their
own.

Frank


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should i do water changes with rain water? my dad has a large pvc barrel, and durring the winter, should i melt snow for water changes? i have been batteling the ph and such for a while, the low ph fish r just fine though, maybe it is my strips, i cant get them tested for a few weeks, i dont live near a fish store, only a walmart

I have to agree that your water is too hard. Over 8.0 is pushing it a bit and I've had growth problems with some plants in my 8.0 hard water. Even in high light with co2 I had alot of plants die for no obvious reason. If you don't live in an area with alot of people and pollution then you can use clean rainwater. Otherwise diluting it with distilled or RO would help. In dry months I had to dilute my well water so it didn't climb over 8 ph. My water tested nearly the same on the walmart strips. The ph and kh showed slightly higher than the liquid tests but the gh came out low using the strips.

i live in the country, live a long way from the nearest city, i just collected some water from my misquito bin and added it to the betta breeding tank/ plant nursery im gunna see how that turns out, and im gunna set up the rain barrel, can i fill it 1/4 way with hose water first, then wait for the rain to finish the job? maybe add some sticks and leaves too?

I have to agree that your water is too hard. Over 8.0 is pushing it a bit and I've had growth problems with some plants in my 8.0 hard water. Even in high light with co2 I had a lot of plants die for no obvious reason.

GH of 12 here. No problems.

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Some days you're the pigeon and some days you're the statue.

Remember that age and treachery will always triumph over youth and ability.

My water tested gh 5-15 depending on the season, kh 15-18, and ph 8.0-8.6. Several plants just wouldn't grow and slowly died off. Most of those same plants added to my 20g with bottled water would start showing growth and at least didn't die. vals and hairgrass were 2 plants I really wanted to grow but they just never would survive in the 55g and the 20g long was too short.

My water tested gh 5-15 depending on the season, kh 15-18, and ph 8.0-8.6.

Well that makes sense Sham. KH and pH were the problems there not the GH. That's not water it's liquid rock With a KH of 15+ how much Co2 did you have to pump into that sucker to get the pH to even budge ? A lot of plants would find a pH of 8+ hard to handle.

Definately RO is the way to go. Far easier to just add what's needed to the RO then try to play with the lava that come from your tap.

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Some days you're the pigeon and some days you're the statue.

Remember that age and treachery will always triumph over youth and ability.

I never got the ph to budge in that water I tried to attach a water filter a year after we moved in and broke the faucet because the minerals had sealed all the connections. The water here is slightly better but still pretty hard so I can't wait to get an ro system running for both the tanks and drinking water.

Last edited by sham at 26-Aug-2005 21:45

my grand parents have one but its small, so if i was to have tanks there and try to even attempt wcs i would be there all week waiting, but should i just use bottled water to fill my tanks?

You can often buy ro water refills for really cheap. At both the walmart and grocery store they have an ro system set up and refillable water jugs from 1-5gallons. Bottled water would also work fine but it will be a bit more costly than getting ro water to mix with your tap water. Figuring it up the amount of ro it would take for my 90g, 20g, and 5g is going to be more cost in 1-2years than buying an ro system so why not just spend all that money at once and also use it for drinking water.