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See i can't see that being true. As a raised temperature will speed up the life cycle of ich, making it growth and reproduce to fast or something like that, that is starves it killing it.

This is very true....for FW. Inverts CANT handle the elevated temps for long periods of time. There are other ways to combat ich in SW aquariums.

In the wild waters are 83-85 for some of these things, and most of them are in reef tanks which sustain that high of temperature.

I suggest you do some more research because there are very few oceans/reefs that are that warm. The average temp of all the worlds reefs is 82*

All my tanks are that high and hardly have problems with the exception of this tank which i kept at 78-77 since i was lazy to not move liverock to get to heater but since then last nite i have up'd it to fight ich without having to use meds.

The temp should be higher than the 77-78 that you have it....IMO it should be 80-82*. Like I have said before, there are other ways to combat ich other than using meds and higher temps. IMO, if the tank is established you shouldnt have to worry about ich IF you have a healthy aquarium. Unhealthy aquarium = stressed fish, which also = disease.

As for anemones not being able to survive in that temperature i am positive they can in warmer waters, i have started a thread with Dr. Ron to see the results of what he thinks.

By all means post your findings....but IMO Dr. Shimek, while a great guy isnt the guy that you should be asking. You should be posting in Borneman, or Calfo's forum instead.

While I am not an expert (nobody really is) I do know what Im talking about when it comes to SW aquariums..mainly reef tanks. All I have to say is that I hope you dont plan on keeping "rare" and expensive corals in your tank with the temp that high as you will most likely lose alot of money. Its not worth the risk to me, but then again, Im spending $100+ on FRAGS of corals. Ive seen first hand what elevated temps can do....you might just be one of the lucky ones. Be thankful, because most people are not as lucky as you.

I base my posts and information on facts...I also dont post information that I am not positive about. Our reefs are too valuable to me and many others for me to be giving out bad information. If I dont know the answer, you can bet your life savings that I will research and find the answer if someone else doesnt know.

DRO

Not a problem. Just keep an eye on it to make sure it's not doing anything strange.

Dan


Dan

lol...ok...it should be ok then...perhaps it just want a rest from those annoying maroon clowns...

once again thanks for the replies

As long as it opens up it should be fine. If you find it laying upside down on the substrate, then you might want to start worrying.

Dan


Dan

well..it curl up like 2 times daily and re-open after a while...I hope that's normal

Some times they curl up. It's normal.

As for not liking the clown, I guess it can happen. Perhaps it's just not used to it yet.



Dan

ok..I get it now...

sorry to have that many qz...about few hrs ago I noticed the anemone has clamped up itself...what's going on here?

and serious, can anemone dislike its hosting clown fish? like...got annoyed by the clown fish?

You can put it anywhere. It will move it to the mouth. As to how much? It will depend on teh size of the anemone. If you over feed it, it will spit it back out.



Dan

when feeding them...can just put some brine or mysis shrimp any where on its tentacles? or has to be in the middle when the mouth is? (only assuming...it looks like a mouth )

and how much should I put assuming I am using mysis shrimp or brine shrimp?

I wouldnt worry too much. It will move around to where it likes, and once it is comfy it will stretch out where it can soak up the light. If you have clowns that are hosting it it, they will most likely feed it for you also....although it would still be best to feed it once a week.

well it is hanging upside under live rocks where no direct light can reach it, only dim lights

but I guess I will just leave it alone since you says it's a normal habit, let's see how it goes...

thanks for the replies

Bubble tips will generally attach their foot in a recess and stretch out to the light...sounds like yours is doing fine to me (without seeing pictures).

your right but...anemones need to adjust to the light so may move to slightly darker spot or something for a few days or weks or something, since they arent in same light they were in before.....


Sorry i didnt know we talkin celcius before, i do not know that scale, dang the rest of world who doesnt use Ferinheight scale.

ok, further qz on anemone

I know that they will move around the tank until they are comfortable...and that's what happened to mine, on the second day of its arrival.

At first I placed it in the opens where it will get good lighting, but now it moved itself under a picec of live rock with heaps of shading, and being upside down.

Isn't anemone need the light for it's zoo' to photosynthesise? Is there a particular reason why it chose to be in the shade? (Maybe the clown fish are too annoying? )

And should I just leave it or I have to do something to move it back to the opens?

Can you belive this? I'm in total agreement with DRO, those temps are to high and will cause problems down the road, and not very far down the road either. My reef tank is in the 80 to 81 range, and my FOWLR is in teh 79 to 80 range, slightly cooler because of the fish I keep in that one. I agree higher temps will help speed up the ick cycle, but this is only suggested in tanks that do not have inverts.

Dan


Dan

Can anemones tolerate higher temperature? say like 30-32 degrees C?

I know that it stings other inverterbrates if they were too close together, but how about shrimps and crabs? Is it possible for them to be stupid enough to walk in the anemone and gets eaten by it? How about fishes?

yea, I have lowered the temp to about 78 by constantly replacing ice bags and air temp for coming days will be around 78-82..so I should be able to manage it without the need to purchase a chiller

I placed it on a flat live rock and cover it with a net, but the next morning I came back the clown fis are on the anemone already...they must have knocked the net off....

how long usually an anemone will take to acclimatise? is over 1 night enough?

Malawianpro, Interesting about the debate on the max acceptable temp, let's us know the results from Dr Ron

Last edited by Week End at 15-Feb-2005 18:52

See i can't see that being true. As a raised temperature will speed up the life cycle of ich, making it growth and reproduce to fast or something like that, that is starves it killing it. How can anemones not take that high of temp? In the wild waters are 83-85 for some of these things, and most of them are in reef tanks which sustain that high of temperature. All my tanks are that high and hardly have problems with the exception of this tank which i kept at 78-77 since i was lazy to not move liverock to get to heater but since then last nite i have up'd it to fight ich without having to use meds. As for anemones not being able to survive in that temperature i am positive they can in warmer waters, i have started a thread with Dr. Ron to see the results of what he thinks.

Im 100% positive....you can do research if you dont believe me though. 82 is about the max. on a steady temp that you want to go.

In SW you do not use elevated temp to fight ich.

Are you sure realm? Plenty of local reefers hold their tanks at 84 degrees here constantly. As it is warmer near shorelingin areas then deepwaters. and then the heat raising temp trick wouldn't work to kill ich if a anemone is in there...?