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Cheers for that bit of info Keith

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Well the new tank arrived 2 days ago and well it is masive LOL The fish all seem vey happy and guess what the floorboards are fine no problems at all.

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tessa

I have sent you a private mesage. Now I am completly confused. It sounds like a fantastic set up.

Keith

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http://www.juwel-aquarium.com/pdf/101920_GB.pdf
This is the manual Keith it does quite clearly state in it not to place polystyrene under the tank.

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http://www.thefishworld.co.uk/juwel_aquariums.htm
Look down the left hand side Keith also here is the juwel website.
http://www.juwel-aquarium.com/uk/

[span class="edited"][Edited by tessa38uk 2004-08-22 10:11][/span]

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tessa38uk

I am totaly confused by that that is all I can say. I do not know the system you are refering to and therefore I can not give you an informed answer.
What WWW did you look up??

Keith

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I have Just read on their site that they have what is called a floating base so there is no need for polystyrene

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Cheers for that Keith I will do that. The only prob with that is some of the set up tanks like the HAGEN FLUVAL AQUARIUMS tell you not to do that. They say just place the tank straight on to the flat surface of the cabinet provided. The tank that I have ordered is the Juwel Rio 400 so I don't know what their instructions will be yet as the tank and cabinet are still on order. Do you think I should still do this even if their instruction clearly state not to? From what I could tell with the Hagen their tanks are specially designed to sit flat on the surface of their cabinets.

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tessa38uk

I hope you are laying a thick 3/4ins styrene sheet between the glass and its base this is the only true way to take up any slight uneveness/differences in the levels.

Keith

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Well we have had the floorboards up where the tank is going to sit and someone has had a look for us. It would seem that the floorboards and beams will be strong enough to take the tank another bit of luck was that there is 2 brick walls under the floor running right along where the two ends of the tank will sit which will also help. What we have been told to do is get an inch thick of plywood an inch wider than the tank all-round and place that under the cabinet that it sits on. Also use a level as we fill the tank to see if there is any change at all. So hopefully we will be ok. I will update you when I get the tank set up

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Ok my living room floor is floorboards now I am thinking of getting a tank that holds at the most 125uk gallons and at the very least 80uk gallons how will I know if my floorboards will take this weight? I don't fancy getting it all set up to fin it crashing through the floorboards.

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tessa38uk

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Keith

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Well i did have a quick look at the floorboards abd i have had work done in the house before which envoled taking the floorboards up and from what i could see they were still the origanal floorboards and joists which the house were built with. I am not sure how long it is since the 1st world war ended but its got to be at least a hundred years surely. From what i could see the wood looked in could condition and was very thick nothing like they put in the new houses today.

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tessa38uk

To be honest it has nothing to do with the flooring. Your concern should be what is under the flooring.

It could be newer timber over a very old supporting timber (Floor Joists)and stumps.

There is only one way to make sure and that is to under the floor and have a look.


Keith

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I asked an architect that same question (we happend to have one handy in the office ) his reply was that it would need to be @least 4" thick to properly distribute the weight, however I don't think many stands have a flat 4" thick piece of wood as the base...*shrug*.

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Right i think i get you know Babel. So if i was to place some wood down on the floorboards then put the tank stand on that, that would help distribute the weight as well as the stand having a nice flat surface.

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Ah sorry tessa38uk, you werent' being thick, I was being my incoherient self :%)....EdgarFanCLS translated quite well for me .

Think of it along the lines of if you had 10 pounds dropped on your finger it would hurt alot more than 10 pounds dropped on the flat of your hand. For tanks the more the weight is distributed by a thick flat piece of wood along the floor, the less weight each floorboard will have to support.

Since you rent you might want to check with the owners, I think that the time period from when your house was built was still using thicker (and real-er if that's a word) wood, although UK is different from the us I'm sure.

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the stand will take most of the weight rather than the floor

What Babel was talking about is the distribution of the aquarium weight to the floor below it. With a tank as large as you're talking, a proper stand will likely have a large, flat bottom to it that helps distribute the weight over a large area.

One thing I'd recommend is placing the tank perpendicular to the floor joists. This way you are placing the tank load over several joists.
A good read which I recommend on this subject:
[link=Residential Wood framed Floors
and Aquarium Weights]http://cichlid-forum.com/articles/aquarium_weight.php[/link]

I pondered this issue extensively before placing my 75G. I ended up choosing a spot against a load bearing wall and perpendicular to the floor joists below it.

The house is rented and it was built just after the first world war ended so it is well old by my reckoning. So babel are you saying that if I choose a tank with a good stand like lets say the juwel rio 400 the stand will take most of the weight rather than the floor? Sorry to be so thick babel

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Do you own or do you rent, and how old is the house?
I went thru this awhile ago when putting the "pond" in. What you want to do is calculate the actual weight per square foot. The stand you choose will effect that. IE: my "pond" sits directly on the floor so every bit of the weight is distributed across the footprint of the stock tank; whereas my 20 gallon tank is on a stand with all the weight resting on four areas less than 1" square.
If you calculate out the weight/square foot and it's less than you're weight then you know your tank won't go exploring thru the rest of the house.
HTH a bit .

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