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fish479![]() Hobbyist Posts: 62 Kudos: 48 Votes: 3 Registered: 21-Dec-2003 ![]() ![]() | I was wondering how long tank heaters generally should last. I have a 45 gal. with a 200 watt rena cal top light excel heater that is almost three years old. There is a little condensation inside the glass and the pilot light flickers a little which it did not used to do. It still maintains the correct temp, but I'm wondering if it is wearing out and if I should replace it before it causes problems. Mike |
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gudel![]() Hobbyist Posts: 259 Kudos: 64 Votes: 1 Registered: 22-May-2002 ![]() ![]() | 3 years sound reasonable. i picked up a cheap one, lasted about 8 months. now i'm using rena heater too. |
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Fallout![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Communications Specialist Posts: 6416 Kudos: 4053 Votes: 742 Registered: 29-Jul-2000 | The heater in my 10 gallon is at least 6 years old, if not more. Condensation inside the heater isn't good... it will start to corrode the me |
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fish479![]() Hobbyist Posts: 62 Kudos: 48 Votes: 3 Registered: 21-Dec-2003 ![]() ![]() | Thanks for the input. I ordered two Ebo-Jagers this morning, a 100 watt for the 20 and a 200 watt for the 45. I've read good things about the ebo-jagers, so I'll give them a try. Also ordered a penguin 125 for the 20 to replace the aquaclear 150, not very impressed with the aquaclear. I have a penguin 330 on the 45 and have been very happy with it. Mike |
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poisonwaffle![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1397 Kudos: 591 Registered: 11-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | The heater in my 29g is about 8 or 9 years old. It's some no-name brand and it doesn't look very nice, but it keeps a very steady temp and works very well. It's only a 50 watt, so I add another 50 watt heater (Tronic...it works very well too) so it can stay a bit warmer. The Tronic heater is about 5-6 years old, and it still works wonderfully and maintains a constant temperature very well. All of my heaters are more than 5 years old, and only one of them (Tetra's Whisper heater) doesn't work anymore. It doesn't have a good seal on it, and if your waterlevel fluctuates more than 3mm it will either be too high and get wet inside, or too low and burn up. My main heater in my 29g flickers quite a bit when it turns on and off, but it's been doing it for atleast 3 years and it still works fine. So you might not need your new ones. I'd keep using the ones you previously had and keep the new ones in a drawer until the old ones die (I'm guessing atleast a few years). HTH ![]() |
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apologeticus![]() Fingerling Posts: 27 Kudos: 28 Votes: 0 Registered: 28-Aug-2004 ![]() | my visitherm heater claims to have a lifetime warranty, and works very well, though I haven't had it long. |
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poisonwaffle![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1397 Kudos: 591 Registered: 11-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | A "Lifetime Warranty" means that it's the ITEM'S Lifetime. So it isn't guarranteed to last YOUR entire life, just the said ob ![]() |
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royal cichlid![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 39 Kudos: 84 Votes: 4 Registered: 02-Jul-2004 ![]() ![]() | i've had a whisper heater quite on me in about 6-7 weeks after i first started using it it really depends on multiple aspects |
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Discus_NYC ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Small Fry Posts: 7 Kudos: 7 Votes: 1 Registered: 06-Sep-2004 ![]() ![]() | This is what hagen has to say about the condensation... The problem of condensation from a heater element is rather common. In general, it is the result of the drying process of the ceramic element, since it is heated it will remove all humidity from the element, but when cooled, there is a chance that atmospheric humidity will enter the ceramic core rather rapidly. The environment of the Italian area where the heaters are manufactured and assembled is quite humid, so when the ceramic core is sealed within the watertight tube, any humidity that the ceramic core had within it was trapped. When the unit is heated again, that moisture naturally is expelled and will occasionally show as condensate on the tube. It has been my experience that the droplets slowly dissipate and it is not an indication of a failing heater. |
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FRANK![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hi, Discus is correct. Unless cracked, or the top is not correctly sealed, some moisture is always "locked in" at manufacture. The problem with the moisture is that it will eventually corrode the electrical connections for the wires. If you look closely, none of the connections are soldered. They are all wrapped, or bound together by copper or brass rivits that have been compressed around the wires. The combination of brass, nichrome wire, and copper wire will eventually corrode. Each time the thermal contacts break connection, there is a small spark. That arc transfers some material from one contact to the other. Eventually that causes a build up of material on one side and pitting on the other. Flickering of the pilot light is an indication of this build up as the two contacts come together to complete the circuit. In the old days before hermetically sealed heaters, we would pull the top off (UNPLUG IT FIRST!) and run our wife's emery board, or some fine emery paper or some fine sandpaper across the contacts to "burnish them up" and then put the whole thing back together and be good for another couple of years. Frank ![]() -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
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fish479![]() Hobbyist Posts: 62 Kudos: 48 Votes: 3 Registered: 21-Dec-2003 ![]() ![]() | Good info, thanks. Mike |
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