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Ok, Ive been reading up on the site about ick, and how to treat it. Ive known with experience from before how to treat it, but now i am wondering about now.

I have a BN pleco and a Common pleco in my tank right now. I am moving the common to my dad's house (already moved the shark) in the next week or so. I have noticed about 3-4 whitespots on my BN, and i am worried, because it is still about 1.5-2 inches still, and i dont know if i should go full strength with treatment. They are considered scaleless right? I dont want to take any risks! I am going about half dose right now, and apparantly it seems like a lot! I am treating with the Ick Away by Wardley. I have raised the temp to 82, and have the lights off. I essentially want to keep them off for a day, MAX! It is complete blackout in there. What i am wondering is if i could turn on the lights for like an hour or two, and if this is ok. I am also treating with Melafix, so stress is as down as possible...

I know ive had ick before, but i am not sure if the BN and the Dwarf Gourami will be affected seriously, as i didnt have them last time. I dont have a Hospital tank anymore, as i need to buy myself a sponge filter later on, and i dont have a filter for it now. I will treat it for like 2-3 weeks. WC 25% every 3 days before the treatment.

Any info would be appreciated, Thanks!

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hey,when i treat any of my tanks with any meds,that have my bns,or my pleocs in there,(weather the bns or plecs are big or small)i always use at half dose rate,and in some cases,depending on the meds,and the fish,i would dose at a quarter,i rekon in these types of cases that its better to underdose than overdose,and kill your fish.the ick away that u mentioned above is ok and will get rid of the problem,but most of these sort of meds trash your bio filter,a bunch of people from this website,put me on to protozin.now this is a litlle more costly,but the makers of this product claim that it has very lttle effect on your bio filter,and now that ive used it,i swear by it,so far everything you said above is pretty much correct,personally ive never changed my lighting times when treating,but each to his own.i also use the melifix too,this is great stuff,oh you probly know this already,but ill just tell ya incase,make sure you dont have any carbon in your filters,this absorbs all your meds any meks them pretty mucj useless,hope this helps,

Thanks HOKESE!

I am going to continue to dose at half strength, and i am adding cycle to my 35% WCs now, and i will also add cycle to the filter sponges too! I have no carbon in there, so....Yeah.

I cant get protozin because i have no clue where it is sold... Ive tried looking in the specialized LFSs, with no result....Where did you get your's HOKESE? Is it a liquid?

Thanks!

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mmmmmmmmm,if you cant get it where you are,try finding it on line,i get mine from my lfs,and yeah mate its a liquid,its blue in colour,i cant really name any website cause ive never had the need to buy on line,but i rekon if you write protozin online purchase or something like that into google search,(or the search engine you use)you will be able to find it online.i also use the cycle very sparingly,im always restocking thatanyway hope this helps,if you still cant find any protzin,let me know and ill have a go for ya.....cool

Ah, i guess i cant get it here. I will have to order it online, but i will just have to use the Malachite/Formaldahyde mixture for now....Until the ick goes away....

ANyway, UPDATE:

The Whitespot is gone off of the BN now, I think......I dont SEE any spots, but i know that the buggers are still there. I'll dose a bit more than a week more... Lets say...Today is Thursday so I'll dose until next monday. Then i will remove the Carbon. I am going to get a small filter for my QT tank, and i am going to get like 2-3 Kuhli loaches right now, and Qt them. Then, after the Ick pandemic, i will add them and buy the rest, so i will have like 5-6 Kuhlis. Or, i was thinking of keeping the kuhlis in an already established 10gallon upstairs, that, houses the swordtails and betta. I might just move some of the fish to the 20g, once it gets crowded.

Anyway, thanks for your input hokeese. I will try to get protozin as soon as i can. I just have to be patient for about a month more....

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Then i will remove the Carbon

Goby by this statement are we to believe you have "Carbon" in the tank while treating with medications? If so this totally wrong "Carbon" should/can be used after treatment not during.

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yeah dead rite,i was just guna say that keith,if you have the carbon in now goby,the meds that u have been using will be doing pretty much nothingif you read on nearlly every med bottle out there,this is why they all say removed activated carbon,so if its in there goby,u should rip it out bro,then keep on treating with your meds,then they will work to there full capacitythis is the soul reason why i dont use carbon,cause its a rite pain in the bum when u do want to add meds,then having to pull filters down to get it out.,anyway good luck goby....

I dont have Carbon in my tanks right now. That was for after the treatment is done. Afterall, how can i have carbon in my filter if i have sponges! I am going to put the carbon in a biobag from tetra, and put it in after the Ickfestation...

ANyway, today i am changing the water and adding more medicine. I am going to do a 40% now, because of the Nitrate spike and i have to change it!

PS: No new whitespots!

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oh ok just making sure,good to hear no more spotsso a nitrate spike a,your not having much luck at the moment,well hope this all helped

Do you know why you are having these Nitrate spikes?
Is it possible you are over loaded for a tall 20g tank?

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The nitrate spike was the after result of the Ammonia Cycle i had earlier for dumping in the gravel. Now the end product is here, along with GW again! Oh well! I did another WC, this time it was a 50% WC, and i think i lowered the nitrates by a lot! Also, i will be adding some wisteria as a kind of absorber for the excess nitrates.

I only have a Dwarf Gourami, a BN and a Common Pleco. THat isnt really much, and besides, i am going to move the Common pleco Tomorrow for sure! My dad has set up a 50 gallon pond outside, and he is going to use it for the plecos, which he has an ugly one and a beautiful one that i am giving to him, and he is also raising Fantail Goldfish.

Thanks again all! I will definatley keep you updated!

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how big is the pondthat sounds great

Umm, wel its a 50 gallon rubbermaid tank, so.....

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well im sure your plecos will be happyin there,thats 1 thing ive never really looked into getting,but i dont really have the yard space,and ive herd that the ponds location is very importantanwy good luck.

Yeah, its in a screened in patio, so it is safe from most harm!

Thanks for the Concern!

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sounds cool,how are the fish all cleared up now?

No ick, but cloudy water. I have a felling that the meds damaged my filter colonies! I hope that they grow back soon, as i had a slight cycle before, that is now a full scale cycle problem!

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give your tank a good hefty dose of cycle,this is what i do after any sort of treatment with meds,and dont worrie you CANT NOT OVERDOSE WITH CYCLE,is even says it on the bottle,this will give your bio filter,or good bactiera colonies a good strong boost,as for the cloudyness,there is some products that you can get,geo liquid is one,however i recomend waterchanges and a vacume for the cloudywaterthis can take longer,but i rekon its better for your fish and thats what matters a...

Well, ive been adding way too much cycle, as it has caused a bunch of things to stick to plant roots (Java Fern) and also causing bacterial colonies on my DW! I think i will go ahead and try the Bio Spira, as i heard it is good. After all, it is live bacteria!

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mmmmmm ok well i would be getting some water changes happening,this will clear up your water,and dilute the cycle.although ive never herd of cycle doing this..