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i HIGHLY recomend jungles clear water

In a healthy tank products like "clear water" are not necessary. Take the time to find out what is causing your problems, don't just toss chems in whenever you have issues. Doing so means you learn nothing, the original problem goes uncorrected and will inevitably return.

i apreaciate the help tryst

i have to move the tank, so im draining the water as of now, its realy wiers if u look at it from a far angle, the water apears green, if you syphon the water out into a white bucket, the water is light brown (the tannons from the large piece of drift wood) can you explain that? im still a little confused but im trying to correct the problem, and im keeping as much water as i can, but sadly it isnt much, i only have 1 bucket available, and its only 3 gallons and there will be another 4 gallons left in the tank when i move it (sliding the whole desk and tank a few feet over) is that enough, or should i save more? im emptying the water out the window, so if you think i should save it i hope u get back quick

it was crystal clear (tryed the jungle crap, dident work anyway) i used crystal clear

IIRC crystal clear is a perparation of potassium permanganate too. Looks dark purple in the bottle so I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Read my post above.

but, now the water is clear enough so the water changes are helping, and also, all of a sudden my filter actually decides to work as its suppost to the and has never been cleaner and there is only a little bit of green water left i few more water changes and i think i will be done (and i stopped adding the chems a few days ago) and yea, at the time i was using wardly but it came with a tank, and i just wanted to get rid of it, i guess next time i should throw it out

but i took many of the fish out, it shouldent be over stocked now (still cant catch them ottos)

but yea, still trying to find the cause of the green water, i can see through 2 other tanks on the other side, by looking through the far side now though and it looks crystal clear from the front, but look through the side, and u can find out that there is a very slight green tint, look through the top, and u find tannens...but the gravel is real clean

Read my post above but add insufficient maintenance to the list. Keep the filter clean, gravel vacced, don't overfeed, don't overstock, etc. If your maintenance practice lags, you have too many fish, you're feeding food that pollutes the water column, your filter is backed up and needs a good cleaning, is it really any surprise that you're having water quality issues? It's really not all that complicated.

I hate to be too heavy on the rhetoric here, I'm just giving input so you can take this experience and learn something from it.

Hi,
Check out this site for Green Water:
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This should tell you what it is, what causes it, and how
to eliminate it and the source(s).

Frank


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oh, sorry about that, it wasnt clear water

it was crystal clear (tryed the jungle crap, dident work anyway) i used crystal clear

but, now the water is clear enough so the water changes are helping, and also, all of a sudden my filter actually decides to work as its suppost to the and has never been cleaner and there is only a little bit of green water left i few more water changes and i think i will be done (and i stopped adding the chems a few days ago) and yea, at the time i was using wardly but it came with a tank, and i just wanted to get rid of it, i guess next time i should throw it out

but i took many of the fish out, it shouldent be over stocked now (still cant catch them ottos)

but yea, still trying to find the cause of the green water, i can see through 2 other tanks on the other side, by looking through the far side now though and it looks crystal clear from the front, but look through the side, and u can find out that there is a very slight green tint, look through the top, and u find tannens...but the gravel is real clean

Jungle's clear water is a weak preparation of potassium permanganate, a strong oxidizing agent that indescriminately destroys organic matter. The reason it works to clear your water is because it will kill the bacteria in a bloom, kill algae if you have green water, etc. There is good reason to be cautious with a product such as this because potassium permanganate can also kill the good guys - most significantly beneficial bacteria.

In your case I suspect elevated levels of ammonia, probably from overstocking or possibly overfeeding, led to a bacterial or algal bloom. I would say 99% of the time with any cloudy water problem that isn't caused by particles of substrate etc., it can be traced to an ammonia spike somewhere right before the bloom occured. You need to find the CAUSE of the cloudy water problem in order to prevent the subsequent EFFECT (ie. algae, bacterial bloom) in order to prevent it from happening again. So, find out what you're doing that's causing ammonia spikes, improve your fishkeeping skills and say "bye bye" to cloudy water forever without the use of suspicious chemicals.

Just one question----what are you feeding? When i first had my cloudy water problem in my 10g (because I was stupid and didn't know anything about fish....or cycles) I was feeding wardley. Suposedly, this stuff contains high amounts of phosphate, and it was giving the bacteria more food (which then turned to an algea bloom....long story). Just an idea, though.

, then i will add the poor goldie() t

You have a goldfish in with tropical fish?

thats just it, im not sure what is causing it, i vac once or twice a week, i scrub the front glass, feed every day, or every other day, i dont over feed, (none touches the sand)i feed shrimp pellets once or twice a week, but i always do that, and had no problems before, they get 2-3 broken up algae disks everyother day, a small pinch of flake (they dont get flake when they get pellets) i fed frozen bbs twice, and they just finished off their blood worms....they get cichlid pellets once a month or so...but thats about it

my tank has been suffering from realy cloudy water for the past few days!i can see all the particals and such, why isnt the filter picking it up?

just before it happned, i did a small water change, and today i got fed up with it, so i tried to clear it all up by doing a very large water change today, i took out all but 3 gallons (also so i could slide it over) i filled it back up, and its just as cloudy now as it was before!:#( (pulls hair out) is there ANYTHING i can do? im almost temped to do a water change like that every day till it clears (but it is ahr work moving that much water!) oh, and its a 29 gallon, has drift wood, white pool filter sand, some rocks, and is a little over stocked atm (have my sisters fish in there while i nuke hers)

ok, i went out and got clear water..er somthing like that its been 4 days sence i started the treatment, and i can see all the way through the long way of the tank into another tank, its still a little green, but, it gets clearer every day i HIGHLY recomend jungles clear water

well i cleand the filter (the pad was washes..err..rinced) its clearing up a bit now, but when my filter kinda craped out for a few days, i found out that there were 3 large snails stuck in where the propeller goes they were all in head first, and couldent move now the filter is working great (also found out i was putting the pads in wrong ) but her fish sould be going back soon starting with the betta, then i will add the poor goldie() then the tetras, then the guppies...might wait a bit for the corys i think they r getting set to breed() 1 female is as large as a dime so im gunna give it a week or 2 but before that time, im gunna clean the 2 10 gallons out and take a few schools of corys from the 10 gallons, and also take out the guppies, to give the rams time to breed......but, it very well could have been both things, a bacterial bloom, and the fiter wasnt sucking right, but thanks for all the help

I have to agree with Frank, for the most part my tanks are clear...I'm thinking you may have added something (melafix will sometimes cloud the water), or you could be cycling even mini cycling, check you filtration and your water parameters, there is something going on, unless it is from you rooting around and digging up mess in the tank...or you filter is clogged and not pulling like it should My only problem is that my water 70% of the time comes out a bit yellowish, but is still clear, just a tad tinted:%)heidi


EDIT: Wingsdic has a good point it could be the city water And if that is it, pour yourself a big picture or jar of water from the same tap you are getting the water from, and let it sit for a bit to see if it is cloudy:%)Again keep in mind the cities lately seem to be playing with the water qualities at the purification plants and could have swapped pipping or anything recently and this is the side effects]:|hml


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Last edited by houston at 12-Jul-2005 17:42

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I have had problems in my 20 gal with the cloudy water problem. I have found that adding carbon helps a lot. I was getting it the day after a weekly water change. I dont know what was up with it. My water tested fine. My LFS said it could just be city water. So thats kind of what I know....

55G Planted tank thread
19G Container Pond
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Here is a picture of a part of my tank. Note the water
is crystal clear.

Frank


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-->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<--

Hi,
I'm sorry but I must take exception to the last comment.
Well maintained aquariums are ALWAYS crystal clear, nor
should they smell.

The only time mine is not, is if I've been rooting around
in it disturbing the substrate.

Frank


-->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<--

Aqariums are never cystal clear all of the time. Mine may get cloudy for a day or two. It always clears up on its own. I do mostly bi-weekly with sometimes weekly water changes. Make sure filters are rinsed thouroughly.

Mmm, Fishy, white pool sand, slightly over-stocked...

Is the tank newly set-up? May be a bacterial bloom.

Did you just add your sister's fish? May be a bacterial bloom.

Are both you feeding your fish and is your sister feeding her fish? May be a bacterial bloom.

Did you stir up the substrate? May be suspended silica.

My vote is bacterial bloom. Talk to your sister and split the purchase price of a Python. Great gadget for water changes. Then do water changes, stop feeding the fish for a few days and be patient.


Last edited by Bob Wesolowski at 27-Jul-2005 06:33

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