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So what is going to happen with this tank then as you mention only the 55 and a 20?

BTW, a 20 Long high tech is quite a challenge. I would have to say that you should go for a Iwagubawuba () as any other scape will cause you to spend major maintenance time with the limited height of 12".

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Well right now I have 6 tanks and a moss filled vase set up(40G long, 2-55G, 29G, and 1.5G). Being it is such a long move and we are not sure how much space we will have (I already take up a large part of our house we are in now) I have chosen to cut back the number of tanks.

~40G will probably come with and get stored or go to my parents house.

~One 55G will come with (the nice one). The other will probably go out to the curb where I found it. I will post pictures to explain later.

~29G might end up being my classroom tank.

~1.5 will come with but I am not sure what I will do with it.

Pictures will come in the next couple of days. I want to clean things up a bit before I do a nice photo shoot.

Also I had some issues last night.

Here is a picture to give you an idea.
http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/?action=view&current=PH.jpg
With a PH that low I am guessing I had CO up to about 400ppm. I lost at least a couple of shrimp and no fish that I know of. I really don't know what happened...

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I lost at least a couple of shrimp and no fish that I know of. I really don't know what happened...

Sorry to hear that, could it be that your bottle goes on empty and blew out the rest? I think that was what happened in my 40G a while back.

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Looks clearly like a blowout to me, your high pressure gauge is all empty.

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Hi,
The regulators are a two stage. They depend on
there being gas in cylinder to offset the spring and
diaphram in the regulator case. When the gas ran out in
the cylinder, there was no opposing pressure and the
gas quickly exited through the output line and into the
tank. Had you been there to observe it it would have looked
like an airstone running full blast till the last of the
gas was exhausted.

That huge blast of CO2 drops the pH like a rock, and the
fish wind up at the surface gasping and in great distress.

I check my cylinder, looking at the high pressure side at
least once a week. At two bubbles per second injection,
I know that I can pretty much not worry about it till the
5th or 6th month of operation on that cylinder (5 pounds).
Once the gage starts to drop, I generally have about
2-3 weeks before the tank is completely empty.

I never let my cylinders go completely empty. I always keep
a pound or two (positive pressure) in the tank.
This prevents internal corrosion of the tank.

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Well when I got home last night. The CO2 was coming out pretty quick but not really much more than normal. I did clean the GD out a week or two ago. Could that have caused the extra CO2. Or could it have been that my needle vale could have moved some how?

Thanks for the info Frank.

My cylinders have been running out much quicker than 5-6 months. I wonder if something is wrong with it. I know I have been running it higher but it has been 3-4 months at most since I refilled it. I don't know...

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Well being that all my tanks are coming down in the next couple of weeks here are some pictures of things you have not seen yet.

1.5G with Hair Grass grown with Sun light. This tank was doing pretty well until it got really hot. I had a little bit of a melt down and lost the Cherry Shrimp I had in there. The plants were also doing better at that point too.

[link=29G that is basically a plant grow out tank. I was also going to try and breed BN plecos in there.] http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/29G.jpg[/link] Most of the plants in this tank are things that I wanted to keep around but not use in the 40G.

55G: this tank houses my Convicts. I have had the male for about 5 years.

Shot of the 40G. This is of the center of the tank.

Of the right side

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So is the 1.5g a Natural Nano Iwagumi

The 55 looks like an earthquake struck a highway and it eventually got submerged and the convicts took over.
Wings, don't take this the wrong way, but I'm into scaped tanks and this one really isn't so I can't really comment much.

The 40g looks great, nice growth, but I expect nothing less from the Co2 extremist.

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Wings , Congrats on the new job , hope you like North Carolina sounds like a very historical preety place to us Aussies .
Love the shots of the 40g , thats some jungle you've got going there .

Good luck with the move , hope it all goes well .

When do you start? How far away is it ? Is it a big town ?
So many questions ,
I'm sure its an exciting time for you and the wife .

Again good luck mate .

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The 55 looks like an earthquake struck a highway and it eventually got submerged and the convicts took over.
Wings, don't take this the wrong way, but I'm into scaped tanks and this one really isn't so I can't really comment much.
I know there really isn't much to say about this one. I plan on setting this tank up similar to what it is now but use more plants and more light. Right now this tank is run on 30Ws which is only about .5 WPG. I plan to up this to about 130Ws and use tons of Anubias, Ferns and Crypts.

So is the 1.5g a Natural Nano Iwagumi
That was the game plan. It was working out pretty well until it got so hot a while back. The sun came through the window and about boiled the water. After that I had a snail explosion and haven't really had much time to play with it. When I head south I will probably try and set this tank up again and use my 19W Coralife.

When do you start? How far away is it ? Is it a big town ?
I have to be down there Aug. 14.

Lincolnton, NC population is about 10,000 compared to 72,000 of Kalamazoo, MI. I am looking forward to living in a smaller town.

More pictures to come later today after my water change and trim.



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Wings,

In order of appearance:

- 1.5 looks like Arizona with a snail problem
- 29 is nice, a little short on hardscape though
- 55 is clean, I would do a tank like this very different though, like either with rocks piling up on either side or a row rising on the left side and falling on the right
- The 40 is the one that is so well planted and in such a good shape that it is a shame that this one should not be put up again

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LF,

Thanks for the comments. I think you hit the nail on the head.

I am kind of thinking of having the 55 take the place of the 40 but I am not sure yet. Time will tell....



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Well I know everyone likes pictures so here are a few more. This time they are of the 40G.

Full tank before the trim. This was taken the night I had the CO2 issue.
The 4-LC has gone nuts in this tank. It pretty much grows everywhere at this point. Almost as invasive as the java moss.

[link=After the water change and trim.] http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/40%20gallon%20part%20XIX/lower.left.jpg[/link]
Same thing from the right side.

Will snap a few more when the batteries are ready to go.

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Hey Wings,

Did you have the Prime bottle open when you took these pictures?

Sure some very interesting angles there, but hardly qualify as a comparison of before and after.

Interesting fact about the 4LC, always good to know what species to watch out for

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Hey Wings, sorry to be a space cadet about this, but I don't recall - did you java fern start out around that size, or did it grow over time into those giant masses. They're great looking, but I just want to get an idea of your starting point.


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Did you have the Prime bottle open when you took these pictures?
Are you talking about the not so clear water? It was less than 1/2 hour after the water change.

Sure some very interesting angles there, but hardly qualify as a comparison of before and after.
More shots to come when the water clears and the batteries are charged.

Interesting fact about the 4LC, always good to know what species to watch out for
It really isn't too bad but you need to keep it in check. It will grow through just about anything.

This is for you Nowher. It started out pretty small.

What I find more interesting is the leave shapes that its putting out. Look like forks. Do you guys get that some times?

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More pictures!

From the right

From the left

Another from the right

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More pictures!

What's with all the pics all of a sudden. Now that you have a teaching job (congrats!)did you buy a new fancy camera?

Anway, tank looks great. For this setup with a wild center and great growth, I would ideally like to see a tigher, lower, single species foreground.

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What's with all the pics all of a sudden. Now that you have a teaching job (congrats!)did you buy a new fancy camera?
Nope just took my brothers so I could get some pictures of the tank before it comes down this weekend or early next week.

I would ideally like to see a tighter, lower, single species foreground.
I know its not super clean. Never will be. I think if I could grow it I would like glosso as instead of 4-LC. Maybe things in NC will work better.

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Hi Wings, this is belated, but HAPPY ANNIVERSARY. I can't believe it is more than 12 months since we were talking about your upcoming wedding. Congratulations on the new job too.

Loved looking at all your pictures. Shame the tanks have to shut down & you can't have them all at your new home.

Look forward to seeing your new setups, once you've settled in your new home.

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TW,

Thanks for all the kind words!

Shame the tanks have to shut down & you can't have them all at your new home.
It's more about moving space. We are going to try and move using two cars and a 5 foot x 8 foot trailer. This move thing is starting to get a little stressful.

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Here is a picture of my Java Fern. Does anyone else get growth like this? I am guessing I get it due to high light and CO2. Just my guess...

http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/fern/?action=view&current=trileaf2.jpg
http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/fern/?action=view&current=trileaf1.jpg

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wow, I always though anubias were slow growers. How long did it take to get to the end result?

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TW,

About two years. Maybe 1.5 yrs.

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Well the tank is now drained, washed out and upside down on my back deck. It is a little sad.... but this just means I can try other things now.


This is the tank after 99% of the plant mass has been pulled out.

I was trying to clear up the water a little bit so I could catch what was left of my cherry shrimp.
Cherries in the 1.5G
A little bit of a closer shot

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Wings, Sad indeed , but think about the possibilities
I always think that setting up is one of the best parts of the hobby .
BTW , how many shrimp have you got !!!!?
Good luck with the move , hope it all goes well .

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BTW , how many shrimp have you got !!!!?
Way more than I thought I had in there! I am pretty sure I didn't get them all either... poor guys....

I had about 3-4 Amano shrimp in there the first night. Yesterday morning there weren't any to be found in the tank. I am guessing they tried to make a run for it.

Right now we are in stage I of the move. In this stage we are packing our junk and moving across the street for a couple of weeks (our stuff in one house and us in another...). Once my wife is done working we are packing our stuff up in our cars and heading to North Carolina.

Thanks for the good wishes!


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Ugh....I hate moving. This is the first time in 5 years I'm not moving. I feel for ya. One year I had 7 tanks to move. After that I smartened up a little. I never did lose any fish or anything due to moving thankfully, but it was still tough.

Good luck to ya. Nice lot of cherry shrimp BTW.

Also I have seen growth like that on java fern. It's actually a cultivated variety. Yours seems to have both normal and tri-lobed growth, which is odd.



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Also I have seen growth like that on java fern. It's actually a cultivated variety. Yours seems to have both normal and tri-lobed growth, which is odd.
The tri-lobe growth is something that is kind of new. It started doing it in the past 5-6 months.

This time around I am cutting my tanks down to three. 55G, 20G long, and a 1.5G. I did have 2-55G's, 40G, 29, and 1.5G set up. Being I am moving 12 hours away I figured I should down grade.

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Wings , Saw you comment on one of Ingo's logs , are you all unpacked in your new home .... Started setting up the tanks yet ???

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Yep, we made it! The trip down here was a bit crazy but all worked out well. It seemed that if it could have gone wrong, it did. I can explain more later if you really want.

As far as tanks go. I have a 20G long set up bare bottom for fish/plants storage. Most of the plants have been taken out and planted but a few haven't yet.

The tank I am working on first is a 55G. It is mainly going to be planted with anubias, java ferns, cryps, and vals. I will probably plant the foreground with 4-LC. I still don't have a digital camera so I can't quite share pictures of where I am at with the tank so I don't know if I will actually start a log for the tank.

Thanks for checking in!

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