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??? whats the question?

Its simple really...there are other things more important to spent my money on, too many other things going on in my life, and im just not interested in having a tank up and running at the moment.

wwwoooooooohhhhhhhhhhh did you say 300 gallons thats 1135.5 litres thats massive and awrsome at the same time but i'd hate to be the one cleaning every month or so

I just dont understand. It's not like you to give up like this. I know you, and you're not a a typical quitter. You've been through a lot, and you work very hard. You love your hobby, and are very involved with it. You've benefitted many people with your endless amount of knowledge and hope. You dream big, and you dont take crap from anyone. It all winds down to your decision, I have neither the ability or right to change your mind...do whatever you want, I wish you the best of luck Nate. I'll end with keep your chin up, but I've come to the realization you'd rather look at the floor. >.<

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

I just dont understand. It's not like you to give up like this. I know you, and you're not a a typical quitter. You've been through a lot, and you work very hard.

Im not quiting....Nothing has changed as far as everything that you stated. Sometimes goals and Priorities change, which is what has happened. I realized that this hobby is just that..a hobby. There are things more important to work/live for, and thats what Im going to do. Atleast for awhile, who knows I may set up something later down the road.

You love your hobby, and are very involved with it. You've benefitted many people with your endless amount of knowledge and hope.

That wont change. I will still be involved in the hobby to some degree. I will still be around the forums that I normally visit daily, and I will still post when I need to. Me not having a tank doesnt change anything really. I will continue to research just because of the simple fact that the animals interest me.

You dream big, and you dont take crap from anyone.

I still do dream big.....the dream has just changed. Goals and Priorities...

It all winds down to your decision, I have neither the ability or right to change your mind...do whatever you want, I wish you the best of luck Nate.

Yes it does wind down to my decision.....and Ive already made it. Thanks for wishing me the best of luck.

I'll end with keep your chin up, but I've come to the realization you'd rather look at the floor. >.<

Im not looking at the floor...Im just looking in a totally new direction.

Funny that you say just a hobby, because even though I barely consider myself actually in this "hobby" I'm beginning to think it's more of a lifestyle than anything...

From past conversations with you, I just find it a little upsetting I guess that you're giving up on the tank for now. I know goals and dreams change, I just didn't think it would ever have to come down to this. I also know that you've told me you haven't ever made it very long without a tank...I just really hope that one day I get to see my stocking list put to use in a tank of yours.

Though I might not like/understand it, I do hope your "totally new direction" works out for you. If this new road comes without another L. spp, without P. smithvanizi, and without mmtb's...I guess that's something I'm going to have to accept...

Last edited by Ferretfish at 22-Jun-2005 13:34

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Howz the tank coming along?

The tank is finished, I just need to pick it up. It wont be set up yet though because Im trying to decide if I want to stay in the hobby or not

Life has taken me down a new path and there are other things more important to put money towards right now

Bump

Sorry, I had to bump it so it wouldnt get lost....A lot of info here I still need

EDIT:

Okay, I needed to write more than just a smiley face. You know me. I love to talk.

I cant tell you how happy I am to see this thread up and running again. I'm so proud of you for sticking through a really rough time, and staying with this hobby. I actually should rephrase that, and say for sticking with a dream.

This means I have to reveal the rest of my stocking list huh. >.<

Things are going to be hard. You dont need me to tell you that. This is one hell of an expensive dream you've (we've?) embarked on! But I cant wait to watch it come alive. Always remember that there are people here who love to talk to you, and pick apart your brain for advice. When you're feeling discouraged, you should know where to go.

*takes off Dr. Phil hat*



-Liana

Last edited by Ferretfish at 12-Nov-2005 19:50

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Yuppers, finish that stocking list

And what's my prize?

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Your prize is a secret

nu uh! no way! not fair!

*pouts and whines*



Naaate.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

your prize can be coming to see it up and running in a couple years.......that and knowing that Im stocking it with your stocking list

I think im gonna set up a place for frags in the basement too Maybe Ill send some frags with you for your tank at college

That could be fun. I cant wait to see the pictures!!!

And when you say frags...do you mean frags...or "frags"...?

This is going to be some fun plumbing. I wish I could help. How fun would that be? Captain, Prince, and Princess Ball Valve unite!!!

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

And when you say frags...do you mean frags...or "frags"...?

I mean both

This is going to be some fun plumbing. I wish I could help. How fun would that be? Captain, Prince, and Princess Ball Valve unite!!!

there will be other tanks that you could help with Im already starting to pick up plumbing pieces here and there.....its hard finding 2 inch thin wall PVC though!

Last edited by DarkRealm Overlord at 12-Nov-2005 21:17

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

I wish I had some frags to help you get on your way DRO. Maybe a little sun polyp will happen to pop off and I can get you started up with those again.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

No worries Matt......I have a lot of stuff already bought and on hold with Phishybusiness.com I have close to $1000 worth of sps that I paid for almost 8 months ago that he is holding for me

wow, nice! Can't wait to see some pics when you get it up and running.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

I want to come to the fragging party when you invade the TOTM tank!

Exactly how many members have frags of yours anyway...

Oh, and you better lemme know which ones you've picked out/up so that I can update the list I have here.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

So.... is there an update? Can we see what it looks like? It has been over a year since this post was last commented on......



Christina

Tank is still empty Christina. Not up and running yet unfortunately.

Just lots of plans.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Well bummer! I was hoping it woudl be a HUGE INSPIRATION for my up and coming tank....

Guess I will have to wait for that inspiration just a little longer


*Sits patiently and waits for DRO to give inspiration for tank*



Christina

I know Nate's tank is way cooler than mine but you can get inspiration from my tank if you want...

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

I have plenty of pics....Unfortunately its still empty with only dust bunnies as the occupants. Im still getting money saved for Pumps, calcium reactor, new bulbs and the OM units (bout $2000-$3000).

I took a little break from tanks awhile back, but Im back in it now

Im hoping to have it up and running by the first of the year!

Yes, Use Liana's tank as inspiration...also use her willingness to take things slow as inspiration also. She has done a great job at researching and not rushing into things as far as stocking! Liana

Nate

If you take inspiration from my tank, and from Nate's tank to be, you'll have basically full out inspiration from both of us, because we had e/o's thoughts going into the tank plans 101%...does that make sense?

Keep saving Nate. You can do it.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Bummer! I was hoping for Inspiration on DRO's tank! I was plannign on looking at his pictures of his tank and Seeing exactly what I was supposed to do to my tank lol


I know, I know... I'm :%)
Christina

If i may ask, what caused the crash in your other tank?

Nick
"Impossumable- unable to play dead"

If i may ask, what caused the crash in your other tank?

what time? The tank crashed 2 times in a 3 month time frame.

1st time...

I had a external above tank powerhead and the bracket broke. The powerhead fell into to the tank and the breaker or GFCI didnt kick the power off to that outlet. The tank had electricity running thru it for approx. 6-8 hours. I didnt lose a lot of stuff (some sps, and a black and white maxima clam) but EVERYTHING bleached.

2nd time...

about 2-3 months after the electricity incident I bought another house and moved the tank. I had a seperate holding tank set up already for the rock and the corals. There was a freak snow storm on the day that we were moving the tank (at the end of April) and I think everything getting too cold caused a huge ammonia spike...that and I dont think I had enough surface aggitation. Out of that crash I ended up losing EVERY coral that I had, and every fish except for one clownfish

I still cant believe you didn't tell me about the crash.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Oh Liana, Trust me you tank is inspirational too!

I was kind of trying to give Nate a bit of a boost.... I thought mayb it would give him a bit more incentive to hurry up with the tank lol... J/K

I have only seen a few pictures of your tank so far unfortunately. I would love to see more pictures, but I don't know where to find them. Do you have any other posts on here with good pictures of your tank? I would love it if you wanted to post them on some of my threads, maybe it owudl bring some more people to my threads...

I am definitely going to try to take my time with this Nate. I will ahve to actually because otherwise I won't be able to do it. I don't have enough money right now, I have to save money to get my stuff just like you.

I can't wait until I can see soem pictures of your tank though. I am sure it will be AWESOME! Has Liana given you a full stocking list for it yet? I would love for her to help me with mine when I get my supplies decided on.



Christina

Hey DRO, aren't you upposed to be getting some polyps and a bunch of other stuff from some of your friends? I thought I saw somewhere in a post that you were. If so, how is that going? I haven't heard anythign from either of you in a while so I thought I would check back.


Christina

Nate has a lot of friends/dealers holding corals for him for when he gets his new tank set up.

There's always a couple of us who are waiting on frags from a friend. I've been meaning to pick some up from a friend but I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

I want to come to the fragging party when you invade the TOTM tank!

Exactly how many members have frags of yours anyway...

Oh, and you better lemme know which ones you've picked out/up so that I can update the list I have here

I dont know how i missed that post

You are more than welcome to come with me when I go to Cris' house and raid his tank As for how many members have frags of mine...Its hard to tell. Ive been trading frags of stuff with club members for 3ish years now...

Ill keep you updated on what ones I pick out/get so you can keep the list updated

I was kind of trying to give Nate a bit of a boost.... I thought mayb it would give him a bit more incentive to hurry up with the tank lol... J/K

I dont need a boost...I need more money. If you care to donate about $2K to my tank fund let me know and Ill send you my address

heyy i'd donate it if I could

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Im thinking I need to stand on the street corner and beg for money to get it up and going by the first of the year. Its amazing how time moves so fast when you have a personal goal you want to accomplish!








[hr width='40%']As family members wept,
And officers consoled one another,
We realized the magnitude of our loss
As we bury yet another Law Enforcement brother.

Indeed, I cant believe how much money this tank sucks from me. It's rediculous. This tank is the only reason I work!

I've got my new shishie acclimating now btw.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Just an update...one Sequence Hammerhead bought, 2 more Hammerheads and 2 Oceans motions to go! Tax returns should take care of those and leave a little money left for plumbing and a DIY Kalk reactor

Yay

*remembers he needs to file tax returns*

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

Ok.....a HUGE order with Marine Depot has been placed...so the pumps, calcium reactor, MH bulbs, RO membrane, and 2in and 1.5in bulkheads are on their way.

Ive kinda been working on the framing for the canopy and finishing up the framing on the stand...all I need to finish up on the stand and canopy is the cosmetic portion of it now.

Think the hole in the wall for the plumbing is big enough?



Dad and me working on the canopy framing



and a pic of the framing finished



And some strange pregnant girl standing in front of the tank for size ref. (shes 5'6 and doesnt look too excited about the tank!).



Its getting closer to being up and running...Im hoping that by mid may it will have atleast water in it to do a "dry" run.

way to resize your pictures nate - you almost killed me

doesn't look much different from the last time you showed me except the hole looks neater

mid may?

will you really keep a promise...

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

The pictures are resized....photobucket just doesnt seem to show them resized unless you hit refresh.

I know it doesnt look different from the last time I showed you about a week ago...I was just updating so others could see

And yes, mid May...Promise will be kept.

Oh gotcha.



Really? You promise?


Question...did you plan on doing ventralis in this tank?

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Im wanting to do Vent's as the main display fish, but Im gonna worry about stocking with corals before adding any fish. It will probably be quite awhile before I add any fish that will eat any of the fauna/infauna.

And yes really!

okay this is where i get to feel smart...

anthony TOLD ME...

vents are not very tolerant of high light


considering this tank is for mainly acros and sps (correct me if i'm wrong?) vents would be a terrible decision

that's straight from the man himself...

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Indeed...BUT if the rock work goes as planned (HAHA thats a good one eh?) There should be plenty of shade for them in caves/overhangs, etc. Im even considering doing a "floating" reef as Anthony describes in his coral prop book

This tank will be stocked with very few frags/colonies. Ive decided that Im gonna go for few and big instead of a "bonsai garden" style.

So far your set up looks pretty freaking sweet I must say but have you thought about water vaper issues? It doesn't take long for water to start causing problems with walls and stuff like that. You might have already talked about this but I missed it I guess. Look forward to seeing more!

55G Planted tank thread
19G Container Pond
[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/Ric

Most of the evaporation will take place in the basement...I already have vent. ducts in place in the basement.

Im prepared for the evaporation and the moisture. My old 180 evaporated close to 12 gallons a day. Colorado is pretty dry, so the added moisture from evaporation isnt noticable.

Ahh, I see! I forget not everywhere is like MI next to the lake....

55G Planted tank thread
19G Container Pond
[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/Ric

*does happy dance* My order is scheduled to be delivered tomorrow!

Ahhhh....just like Christmas!

Just like it...

Broke as hell but happy as a clam. :lmao:

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

HAHA, looks like I need to repost the pics since I moved them

Anyway, here is the equipment list so far.

Aquamedic spacelight X 2....running four 250w Phoenix 14k bulbs, each unit has a moonlight

Aquamedic turboflotor protein skimmer, Lifereef protein skimmer, and a "predator" custom built skimmer (yes, 3 skimmers )

6 Phosban reactors....3 reactors running phosban and 3 reactors running carbon

Korallin Calcium reactor (rated for 800g)controlled by an Aquamedic PH Computer

Redsea Ozone, ozone generator and controller all in one

Two Sequence Barracuda pumps for closed loop

One Sequence Hammerhead pump for return pump....with all 3 pumps I will be pushing just shy of 14,000gph (50ish times turnover)

PVC manifold...I decided to save some money after talking to Anthony Calfo and try the plain jane manifold before purchasing two of the Oceans Motions 4-ways

Zeovit reactor/system...I have the setup, but Im not sure if Im gonna be using it or not, atleast not until the tank is going strong and I have a lot of the corals added.

Two 1000W heaters...I hate paying $140 for a heater, but it will take away a TON of clutter in the fish room.

Kalkwasser Reactor....DIY of course

Hmmm...I think thats it for now anyway. After my initial order I realized that I wanted/needed more stuff so I racked up an additional $600 on the second order

racked up an additional $600 on the second order

About the cost of my tank setup, including some livestock .

Sounds like it will be awesome, can't wait for some pics of these monstrosities(pumps, skimmers, etc.)

Good luck with the setup...here's for a smooth start.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

About the cost of my tank setup, including some livestock

I wish it was that cheap to get this tank up and running....it would be a lot cheaper if I didnt want everything under the sun for it.

Some pics of the pumps and the Korallin calcium reactor..still need to get pics of the other stuff Empty (no I didnt drink it ) bottle of Fat Tire for size ref.

Those are monsters.

Empty (no I didnt drink it ) bottle of Fat Tire for size ref.

I'm sure you just popped the top, and drained it out saying "this one's for my homies".

How did you DIY your Kalk reactor, do you have a link for one? I'm getting tired of buying all the B-ionics, and I've read you can buy pickling lime or somesuch thing. Sounds cheaper too. I've never quite understood this Kalk stuff, it's mentioned a lot, but rarely explained(I could use a link here too).

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

I just surrender now Nate...

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

LMAO, why do you give up?

Two Reasons:

#1 - i've come to the conclusion that your tank will always be cooler than mine b/c you will always go overkill vs. the ghetto ways...

#2 - my monsterous emerald crab has been eating my princesses...i've only seen one so far today, but i saw a nice princess head inside of his claws...lovely


i'm so pissed off-



-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

You can go the non ghetto way too....it just takes more time to save. You can always add non ghetto versions later on down the road.

Your emerald was probably just cleaning up the tank...my guess is that the Princess was already dead and he was just taking advantage of a free meal.

He's taking down one per night.

They look fine when I say goodnight.

They have no heads when I see them in the morning.

Case closed.



ps - I will probably refuse to accept that it was my husbandry that killed them anyway

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Update...Just walked out of home depot with $356 worth of PVC, and PVC fittings for the plumbing

Now its time to start working

Good luck finding someone to crawl in there and plumb for you.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

THE SACRIFICE OF THE COAT CLOSET TO THE SW GODS!!!

Pshhaa. I still see room for say...3 coats you can hang them on the pvc. Easy peasy, and the SW gods will still be happy.

I assume the middle is from the return pump, and the 2 on either side are closed loops, what are the ones on the far left and far right?

EDIT: oh duh...they are going to the sump huh?

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

yeah, the far left and far right are 2" drain lines going to the basement fuge..the one in the center is a 2" return line from the basement, and the others are 2" closed loops.

Everything is dry fitted, I just have to glue them up and finish the plumbing in the basement

Have you figured out what you are doing with the fuge? Last I heard you mention xenia, clams, and even aptasia. What's the verdict?

Also, DSB in the main display, or BB? I don't know if you had decided on that either. *hopes for DSB*

Give us more, man! I'm getting excited/:'

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

the fuge(s) will just be regular ole fuge(s) with chaetomorpha growing in them...they will probably be bare bottom.

I plan on having a DSB in the main tank, but that might change depending on how much the flow kicks up the sand. Ill give it a couple weeks to settle before I decide. I hope it doesnt kick up too much cause if it does its going to be a pain to get 850ish lbs of sand out of the tank LOL

Looking good.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

wuddup 120 in wall





-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

*drool*
where ya' been lately?

Nick
"Impossumable- unable to play dead"

Hey Liana, stop hyjacking Nate's thread, lol.

I see it is started in the wall, and filling with water, so where is your log????

_____________________________________________________________

There is always a bigger fish...

I think you meant 120 in the house....or possibly the HIZZOUSE? Gotta work on your ebonics liana.

And for real....where's your thread? Sheesh, poor DRO has to deal with this hijacking.

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Critical Fertilator: The Micromanager of Macronutrients

I've been around...I have a busy life for a kid. I watch the forums daily even if I'm not posting.


And puhlease boys...I'm 100% allowed to hijack Nate's thread if I want to.


Besides, that was just a test fill. I'm not going to make a log until there's equipment on it and SW in it.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

Nathan Henry.

I'm getting bored.

My new tank has sand and water in it, and all new plumbing.

We had a promise dude...

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

lol, Its still May

and Im placing another order with marine depot probably on thursday.

You have to remember that Im doing this basically from scratch...I already have almost $7K invested in this setup. Money is a little harder to come by when the house payment comes first Its getting there though!

I knoww, but you're running out of time...

You break our deal I swear I will never talk to you again.

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

*bump*

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish

bump

anything new???

cant believe i read through this

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''All the clown fish and yellow tangs in the world cant save you now!''

Maybe this will inspire him to pick things up a bit...!

-Formerly known as the Ferretfish