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	~Black~ Kuhli Loach
GobyFan2007 Fish Addict Posts: 615 Kudos: 363 Votes: 65 Registered: 03-Feb-2007	Hi there, It turns out that Kuhli Loaches (Regular) Are just impossible to find here. In Petsmart, they have black kuhli loaches. Are these the same species, with a color variation, or just a whole nother species? Is the care different? What is their max size? Ive heard of these before, but i thought they were the rarer ones....Oh well.....Are they nicer looking? Or are they like just plain and ugly? My LFS says theyll be getting shipment next tuesday, so i hope they have the striped version. THanks all! ><> ~=!Vote Today!=~ <>< -----> View My Dragons <-----
Posted 08-Nov-2007 23:57
BM Fish Master Posts: 1436 Kudos: 239 Votes: 127 Registered: 24-Aug-2000	Edited by BM They are similar- kinda of a brownish uniform color. They are peaceful, like to be kept in groups, nocturnal feeders. Pretty hardy fish -- last for several years- good for clean up. Just about the same without the bars. They are also called Java loaches http://www.fishprofiles.com/site/aquarank.aspx
Posted 09-Nov-2007 00:16
clownloachfan Fish Addict Posts: 660 Kudos: 850 Votes: 115 Registered: 10-Oct-2003	Yes, Black kuhliis are a different species. heres a link if you want to read up on them http://www.loaches.com/species-index/pangio-oblonga
Posted 09-Nov-2007 01:19
keithgh Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003	They are in several colours from a dark brown to stripes of different colours of brown - black and different shades of yellow. It is the same here it just depends on the supplier as one supplier sells to many LFS *Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info* Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? VOTE NOW VOTE NOW
Posted 09-Nov-2007 01:32
GobyFan2007 Fish Addict Posts: 615 Kudos: 363 Votes: 65 Registered: 03-Feb-2007	OH! Ok, those are cute! i certainly will love them. Shoould i get larger gravel though? I saw the photos, and they seem to like to bury themselves in it, and i know that my gravel isnt quite large enough to give them a proper playground... How exactly do you breed them? Has anyone been successful? How did the guy who posted the photos have baby kuhlis? Sigh! ><> ~=!Vote Today!=~ <>< -----> View My Dragons <-----
Posted 09-Nov-2007 04:01
clownloachfan Fish Addict Posts: 660 Kudos: 850 Votes: 115 Registered: 10-Oct-2003	It is actually suggested to have a fine substrate such as sand. Regular soft gravel is fine though. Breeding them is usually a surprise- heres the article on how the guy bred them-http://www.loaches.com/articles/breeding-experience-with-pangio-oblonga enjoy The large stones helped the small loaches survive without being eaten. a thick clump of plants or a heap of large pebbles would produce the same effect.
Posted 09-Nov-2007 04:31
GobyFan2007 Fish Addict Posts: 615 Kudos: 363 Votes: 65 Registered: 03-Feb-2007	Ah! Okay! That would be neat.....Do you think that it could be replicated, much less in a 20 gallon? Yeah right! I completely and fully doubt it. Maybe when i get my 40 long for my birthday, then just maybe.... Ill have to use some large riverstones and pebbles and put them into a heap in an indented part of the aquarium. With his conditions, im sure that it could come true....We just have to look for that key factor..... ><> ~=!Vote Today!=~ <>< -----> View My Dragons <-----
Posted 09-Nov-2007 04:59
clownloachfan Fish Addict Posts: 660 Kudos: 850 Votes: 115 Registered: 10-Oct-2003	Tank size is not the key, a 40 would be better though. This would allow you to keep more kuhliis and keep the water quality more stable. You would also have a greater chance of having a good number of females and males. -To start breeding, i would feed them well with sinking shrimp pellots, brine shrimp, bloodworms, etc. Make the water acidic by means of peat, although it was the exact opposite in this article. You would have a better chance trying to replicate the water parameters they have in the wild. I am glad someone else has a passion for breeding kuhliis besides me.
Posted 09-Nov-2007 06:10
keithgh Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003	I would prefer a 2-3mm natural colouring substrate. Here is a photo of one of my darker Kuhli. The small round stones are man made and are supposed to be very porous meaning it can hold the bacteria better than small stones. *Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info* Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith *Attached Image:* Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? VOTE NOW VOTE NOW
Posted 09-Nov-2007 06:57


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