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the only problem is sometimes female bettas quarrel and osmetimes you end up with a male that looks lke a female, so thats a bit riskier. a dwarf puffer would be nice, although they require live foods (blood worms and snails) if oyu have good access then thats the way i would go, you can always order a fish or have you parents get you one and ship it over (or if close enough drive it over). have a look at the LFS and --dare i say it-- walmart. my local walmart has dwarf puffers in stock, always.

have you decided on a tank yet? the 3 gallon would be too small for a puffer.

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If you get female bettas, try and get 3 spawn siblings or find the more submissive/middle of the road ones in the tank at the LFS. Be prepared for about 3 weeks of squabbling and be ready to separate them if one starts biting at eyes or bodies (fins are fair game for the first few weeks)

For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

If I were to buy a DP online what site would you guys recommend? Otherwise, I guess I will start looking around and hopefully get this tank or at least A tank set up after Xmas Break.

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Try and get a dwarf corydora or something small like that in there. My experience with dorm tanks (nanos--and I've had many in college) are that substrate management is important for keeping everything happy.

Oh yeah, get a trickle filter to prevent lipid slicks on the surface of the water.


Also, if you're having a mixer at your place, make sure the blazers don't empty a can of beer into your tanks to "see if fish get drunk". That got old real fast.

By DP I meant Dwarf Puffer by the way.

What is the best site to order fish online?

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i t hink what cup if life noodles meant was that you will want tome fish to keep the substrate clean... his suggestion was a dwarf corydoras... it is a good idea to keep something to keep the substrate clean unless you have time for frequent WC

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OK that makes sense. A Dwarf Puffer or bettas would leave them alone tho?

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depends on the specific botom feeder. If you get a betta then for sure the bottom feeder will be fine, but a DP would be questionable because they have varying temperments (much more drastic than a betta). so if you go a puffer make sure there are lots of hiding places and get a nocturnal scavenger to clean the bottom if you go a betta almost any door is open except for eith NO PLECOS (unless you get a dwarf pleco which stay relatively small, my cousin got one about a year ago and it is still like 2 inches long...)

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So I didnt get around to doing anything last semester but I have now narrowed it down to these two:

http://www.petco.com/product/104565/All-Glass-Aquarium-5-Gallon-Aquarium-Kit.aspx

http://www.petco.com/product/13809/Marineland-Eclipse-Corner-5-Aquarium-Kit.aspx

Size wise I love both of them, but I am not so sure I like the shape of the corner one. Are there any similar to these that I may have missed?

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You can get non-corner eclipse tanks in 3 or 6 gallon sizes. I have a 3.

http://www.aquatichouse.com/tanks_files/eclipsesystem.asp

Ok, it's down between the All-Glass 5 gallon or the Marineland 6 gallon one now.

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all glass is probably cheaper but marineland will be better...

the allglass kits uaually come with tetra filters which are good but not up to par with penguin/marineland.

plus nothing can compare to the easy of the maintenece and look of the marineland...

just my thoughts!
although the monetarily starved college student might find it better to buy a 10g kit at walmart for about the same price!

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fyi - a dwarf puffer will destroy a betta.

I never said anything about keeping a betta with a dwarf puffer.

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For a 5 gallon tank what fish could I get?

Obviously I could do a Betta. I would like to get a Dwarf Puffer but I dont think I will be able to find one.

What about a pair of Dwarf Gouramis? Or is that pushing it?

Are there any small freshwater cichlids that I could get as a pair by any chance? I highly doubt it but thought I would ask.

Any other ideas?

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you could try like two shellies or possibly a pair of small kribs/apisto if you kept up on the maintenece...

if you got an eclipse you could even drop over to the dark side and do a little marine tank with a small percula(sp?) clown and some live rock and sand.

you couldnt do a pair of gourami, too much.

maybe try to get 3 khuli loaches and a single dwarf gourami...

you could do a shrimp tank too if you wanted but that could be a pricier investment, like 30 shrimp to start along with maybe like a couple small rainbow fish (you'll have to do some research to see, but i remember seeing some tiny ones a while back...)

-Brandon

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I have narrowed it down to these options:
1 Male Betta with ?
3 Female Bettas with ?
Ember tetras
Neon tetras
Cherry barbs (pair?)
White clouds (how many?)
1 Dwarf Gourami with ?
Ottos go with some of these?
Dwarf Puffer with snails/otto (if I can find a puffer that is)

Which of these species would make it thru cycling a tank also?

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Hi,
Just a comment, When I had Cherry Barbs, and later
White Cloud Mountain Tetras, I had a school of them
in a 30G tank. Mine were much like Zebra Dainos,
non stop energy from dawn till dark. To me, placing
even a small school in that tank would be much like
placing them in a cell. There simply is not much
swimming room.

I would go with something small, colorful, and while
active, not near as active as the others.

Frank


-->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<--

One thing I have noticed is that the temp can swing quite a bit with these small tanks when the light isn't on at night. You may need a heater. My friend has 3 longfin danios and a snail in his Eclipse 6. Constant activity and they can tolerate the cooler water.

Besides 3 kuhli loaches what else could I do with a dwarf gourami if I were to go that path?

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I wouldnt, i wouldnt put the kuhlis in there either.
I also wouldnt put 3 female bettas in there, they'd likely end up all rag-finned.
Have you thought about wild bettas at all?

What is the difference between a betta and a wild betta?

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