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Can You Have Too Much Filtration,Should I Take Something Out | |
HOKESE Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 | hey guys,i made a large jump up in filteration the other day,so now in my 55 gal,ive got a 2000l/h,external cannister filter,a attman 881 internal filter,and a 1100l/h power head taking care of movement,so my qusetion is,is this all to much?should i take out my powerhead,i only ask,because the outlet for my cannister,is quite a strong current.thanx guys |
Posted 08-Oct-2007 08:00 | |
keithgh *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 | That sounds a little bit too much unless you have a tank that requires a lot of water movement. You could take out the Attaman 881. To test it out turn it off for about 5 minutes and see if it makes any difference. Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? VOTE NOW VOTE NOW |
Posted 08-Oct-2007 08:15 | |
HOKESE Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 | mmmmmmmm,ok i was sort of leaning towards taking out the powerhead,i didnt really want to take away any filtration if possible,its just that im minding a small oscar for my mate,and you know how messy these guys arebut if you still rekon the attman ill give it a go.i was under the impression that you can never have to much filtration,i mean with in reason,obviously a mini reef on a 10gal,is guna be to much,but i thought that this setup i mentioned above would be ok. |
Posted 08-Oct-2007 10:24 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, In a sense, you cannot have too much filtration on an aquarium. By that I mean if your filter turns the water over at say 4 times an hour, and you buy a physically larger filter that still turns the tank over 4 times an hour, then the new filter is fine. Unfortunately when we change to a "larger filter" the turnover rate is what increases and suddenly the fish are fighting the return current constantly. In that case, unless you provide obstructions to that increased return flow, the fish will stress and eventually die of exhaustion. The fish will need places to get out of the current. Providing places for the fish to hide from the currents also, unfortunately, provides "dead" places for fish waste, excess foods, and dying plant material to accumulate as well and these "sumps" can cause problems with pollution. It's best to stick with a normal bio-load for the tank, and to use a filter that has your tank capacity in the middle of its range. For instance, with a 55 gallon tank you you should not use a filter rated for tanks from 30-55 gallons. That filter may not be able to handle the needs of your tank as the 55 is the top end of its abilities. Nor should you opt for a filter rated from 55 - 250, as the output would be too high. Instead choose one where the capacity of the tank is somewhere in the middle. If you have too many fish, or are pushing the fish limit for the tank, then the 55 should shift toward the bottom limit of the filter. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 08-Oct-2007 16:37 | |
HOKESE Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 | ok cool thanx frank,they do have lots of places to hide,and from watching them swim around i think it will be ok,just taking out the attman as said above,what do you rekon frank?at the moment,i am a bit over stocked,because im waiting for a bredding pair to form.but when thats done it wiil be back to normall stock... |
Posted 08-Oct-2007 16:56 | |
poisonwaffle Mega Fish Posts: 1397 Kudos: 591 Registered: 11-Feb-2003 | I've found that the best way to properly filter a tank, while not creating too much current at the same time, is to have your current be strong, but turbulent. Set up your filter outputs so there is a gentle sideways swirl throughout the tank, so each filter doesn't end up filtering one half of the tank, but they both filter the whole thing. Also, have some outputs go against each other so they cancel each other out and create some turbulence (keeps water oxygenated, but doesn't blow fish around). One generally runs a setup like this in a reef tank, not in a freshwater tank, but if you've got messy fish, sometimes you've gotta do what you've gotta do. |
Posted 08-Oct-2007 23:39 | |
HOKESE Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 | yeah good idea,and as i said im a bit over stocked trying to get a pair. |
Posted 09-Oct-2007 20:02 |
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