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Hello all,
I was thinking of buildig a shelf to hold my fish tanks. I have 2 1/2 g, 10g, and 29g. What should it be made of so it does not break?
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I would make a table & not a shelf. With the 29 gal. tank on top & the other tanks on the bottom shelf.
It can be made by hollow section iron or wood.


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Sweet cool i was thinking of using 1/2 inch ply and 4x4. Is that over engineering?
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With a shelf you'll want to remember that the weight will be on the brackets. You should estimate approximatly 10lbs per gallon. Home depot sells some wall shelves that will take quite a bit of weight, however you'll have to be sure that the brackets are mounted properly, and that screws and anchors are able to support the weight. A low table would be safer as the weight would be in four spots rather than two.

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ESANDBERGGER

Dont even consider shelves for that weight unless you know exactly what you are doing.

The brackets are held by either screws/special bolts etc this is the actual point of direct shear/stress.

I once saw a whole bottle shop display wall fall down caused by poor fixing and virbration from the road trafic it was a mess.

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Ouch ya,
I was jsut trying to contain my tank collection so maybe a couple of tables would be better
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Tables are much more better than shelves.



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While not exactly the most appealing from the decorative standpoint have a look @ Utility shelving sold in most home improvements stores like Home Depot and Lowes. They're designed to hold a few hundred pounds of weight and if we're discussing smaller tanks and betta bowls and vases it might be what you're looking for. Some paint so they're not gunmetal gray might be an improvement, or even some fabric over the shelves themselves. Adding some houseplants to the arraingement might make it acceptable :%).
Home depot I know has one that is a two shelf unit that is long and deep and really rather tempting.

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ok cool that is awesome! I was going to get some shelving from there anyway
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Hi,
The only problem with the shelving that Babel mentioned
is that while the steel frames will support the weight,
the particle board that is used as the shelf will not.

By that I mean that it will absorb the moisture from the
tank and over time will warp sagging in the middle.
If you are going to use that style shelving,
I would give serious consideration to replacing
the particle board with solid wood, or at least something
like marine plywood.

I can't tell you how many of these things I've thrown away
after folks leave them behind (I manage a storage facility)
and in every one the shelving has sagged from excessive
weight, and has water or oil marks in the depressions.

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actually i would like to get food service shelving. It seems to support lot of weight. The stuff that is small welded bars...
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ESANDBERGGER

The shelving is not the problem that is the easy part. Correct width,&amp; strong brackets.

As I stated before it is the fixing to the wall that is the most important as this is where all the stress and sheer is.

It will not matter how strong the shelf is if the fixing is incorrect.

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