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keithgh
 
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I had a massive problem not so far back caused by my stupid security program.
I decided to do a bit of upgrading.
New HD, Mother Board, Processor, straight to MS7, a far better security program.
All I have to do now is MS 2010 Word and then the latest Adobe elements.

Then its into a lot of learning to do.

Keith

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I have to upgrade mine one of these days too. Its definatly had its day!
Have fun with your 'new' computer.


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I recently upgraded my computer from an Athlon64 3000+ to an I5 750. It's niiiice. 10 times the speed. Still on XP, though. In no hurry to upgrade to 7.
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I hear you Keith it's a learning curve, you're prob quite comfortable with 7 by now. How are you liking it ?

I got sick of my clunker, rebuilt too, used my case and drives, then bought new cpu, ram, mobo, vid card. It was so worth it.

I went with the core i5 750 cpu, stuck with xp pro for the build. Hope to go dual boot with win7 64-bit then bump up the ram to 8 gigs but it has to wait.

My new monitor is being shipped (50" samsung plasma)

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DaMossMan
Starting off with W7 from a old XP it a massive learning curve.
I finished up doing a six week course at a local community center (part local Gov funded) just as well.

I then bought two excellent fully coloured books.
Teach Yourself
Visually Microsoft Windows 7

and Teach Yourself
Visually Microsoft Office
Word 2007

I would be lost with out them.

I had a Samsung Flat Screen
First one lasted under 3 months
They replaced it with a brand new one that never lasted one year. Then they replaced it with a dirty old scratched older model. Naturally I screamed it took over 3 months and many E/m directly to the big boys at Samsung.

Here is a little clause in their guarantee.
They will replace it etc
NOTICE no mention of a new replacement.

The person who pick mine up was averaging 10 a week and he was only one driver in a small area of Vic Aust now think of the returns in Aust and world wide.

Apparently they Samsung have a huge Dept just repairing their products.

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Thanks for the warning. 10 a week is alot. Wished I talked to you beforehand & sorry to hear you're having a headache with them. My buddy has a 2yr old 46"samsung led, well built, no probs and great style. I could only afford the plasma. I hope problem free. I ordered the PN50C540 (2010 model - hoping they've ironed out the bugs of past models) will keep my fingers crossed. Should have it by end of June. What model do you have ?

Given there is free info on the net, sometimes there is no replacement for good informative books



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Model number????

All I can tell you it was a 19in it is very possible it was this model only as it was practically sold everywhere at a very competitive price.

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Wow!
A 50 inch "monitor?" TV I could see, but somehow I'm not
sure I would want to look at AOL on a 50 inch monitor

We have a 40 inch LCD at our home in Lakewood CO, and a
70 inch LCD at our home outside of Como CO. The plasma
screens won't work for us,as we are too high in altitude,
10,000 feet elevation. The plasmas stop working around
8,000 feet.

This darn thing keeps rebooting on its own, and it's going
to wind up on a scrap heap somewhere ...
Frank


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It's a 50 inch plasma hd tv, I call it monitor for humour

As it it, the tv is at home now in the box, built a stand from pine then stained it a cherrywood color to roughly match my tank stand and computer desk. The stant is being taken there tonight, then all to be set up. Then I have some serious sorting and cleaning to do lol.

"This darn thing keeps rebooting on its own, and it's going
to wind up on a scrap heap somewhere ... "

Your computer is restarting ?


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EditedEdited 12-Jun-2010 13:54
Hi,
Yes, my computer is constantly rebooting itself.
Generally speaking it happens whenever the temperature in
the room is over 72 degrees. If I keep it at 65 it still
reboots, but not as frequently. Because of the temperature
"thing" I believe something is overheating, however when
the blue screen comes up (Windows 2000XP) and the computer
begins its self check, I usually see several entries about
bad files being truncated and reset so then I wonder if
something in "Settings" somewhere is off and when too many
of these files occur it takes up so much space that it
reboots itself. Besides temperature, it seems to occur
most frequently when I'm on AOL and looking at various
lead stories that have videos attached (watch this or that)
like something reaches saturation, and it reboots.
Dunno.

I do regular cleaning (once a quarter) with compressed
air. I've taken the microprocessor chip off of its mount,
cleaned it, and added new heat transfer paste, blown out
the fins, and even cleaned the fan built into my video
card. I have to run the computer (a Gateway tower) with
the side off it and a 5 inch muffin fan blowing into the
computer onto the mother board and across the video and
sound cards.

I've learned to constantly back up my writings every so
many times so I don't loose everything.

Frank

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Get a program to monitor CPU, MB and GPU temps if you think it's temperature related. I use Lavalys Everest, but I don't know what others might suggest.
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Hi Frank sorry for the delay.

You will have temp tracking in your cmos but need to boot into Setup to access it. To check thru windows is better. Either a program such as Everest, or your motherboard and vid card may also have temp monitoring utilities already.

You've covered the bases well. Dust is the most common cause of heat failure. Did you blow the dust from the power supply ?

Truncated files.
Frequent restarts are usually 'hard' restarts, which can cause problems with your hard drive (bad sectors etc), and fragment / damage files. Do a disk defrag if you haven't lately, followed by a restart, then do a scandisk. Make sure with the scandisk, to checkmark 'automatically fix errors'. Your pc may overheat before the 'thorough' scandisk completes so do the quick one for now. This is worth it even just to make sure as much of your data as possible is recoverable. It also can improves performance.

Crashing in aol - can be from a number of things, if not from the overheating. Tackle the overheating first.

Usual overheats - cpu, motherboard capacitors, power supply, video card, hard drive. Check the top of the capacitors on the board and vid card, does any of the tops look discolored or have swelling ? Is your video card close to a heat source, another card even ? Is there good airflow between the main components ? Are all your fans (cpu, power supply, case fans) spinning as they should ? Do they spin straight and no cracks, visible damage or vibration ? Is a part getting physically hot ? You could run it until the pc restarts due to overheat, then power it off. Ground yourself by touching the back of the power supply with one hand, check the hard drive then video card with your other hand. This could help narrow things down.

Do you have a spare psu or hard drive kicking around ?

Another option is downloading a free hardware stabilty test which will stress test your components (sometimes can test different components individually, others are all-at-once) and can report which part failed. I have SFX Stability Test, and CPUStabTest on my usb key in my 'tools' folder. Check for them at downloads.com





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EditedEdited 12-Oct-2010 06:08
Hi,
I've tried everyone of your suggestions much earlier in
the game. Nothing seems to be the problem. I thought I'd
found the problem as there was some heat accumulation
in between boards so I moved one over a slot and
inserted a fan designed to fit into the gap.
Seemed to work for a while but actually it worked when
I had the A/C on and the vent was over the open tower.

I believe I am going to simply purchase a new computer.
Mine is a 2001 version, and I could do with a new one!

Thanks for your suggestions, I apreciate it and you might
have had one that I've not tried yet.

Frank

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Sorry to hear the problem came back. You tried everything you could !

Definately treat yourself to a nice new pc or laptop. You deserve it !

Don't know if you bought one already but I know of a couple good places online. Don't know if you want to stick with xp or go 7. If you get one without an operating system, still your choice. 7 even the 32 bit will give you bit better performance. I installed 7 on the weekend, Keith was right, it's definately a learning curve ! I still like xp pro though too.

Back in a bit.

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EditedEdited 15-Oct-2010 06:11
Here's a good computer retailer in the U.S. They also have a Canadian sister company that has good reputation.

http://www.ncixus.com/

Good prices on home desktops with a range of operating systems, processors etc.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?minorcatid=1356&po=0&ps=2

I hope that is some help for you

Anything 32 bit 2-4 gigs of ram is sufficient, 3 point something gigs will be used by the o/s, the rest used by the pci bus in the background to speed up at the hardware level. By the time znti-virus, anti-spyware etc is loaded, it doesn't take much to use up 2 gigs of ram. Max out whatever your o/s and board will support. My last xp build 32 bit had 4 gigs of ddr3 - 1333 mhz ram. The thing flew but was built for win7 64 bit upgrade in mind.

Anything 64-bit, 4 gigs of ram minimum.

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